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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Database of Patterns/Models - Database structure
Posted by: Jon Edwards
Date/Time: 06/11/2002 11:49:08

Hi Ulic,

Thanks for the feedback! Remember I'm fairly new to NLP, so most of what I wrote above was extracted/paraphrased from Michael Carroll's post (with my additional suggestion that we define a level of sub-units of "patterns", tentatively named "procedures").

I haven't read "Turtles All The Way Down", but have now ordered it!

The terms "source" and "function" were extracted from Michael's post, but my take on it is -

- "source" is the name of the person who was modelled (Milton Erickson, in Michael's example of the Milton Model)

- "function" is the purpose of the pattern, what it is designed to do. Referring to your recent posts about defining a sensory-based description of what a pattern should achieve, I'd say "function" is a word or short phrase that summarises that description. So, in the case of the Meta Model, the patterns came from different sources, but have a common function - to recover the deletions/distortions in the client's language.

I'm not sure I understand your last question, could you give an example? Do you mean that in some models certain patterns should be used in a certain order - run Pattern A, then Pattern B, if that doesn't work try Pattern C?

If so, that's what I was trying to get at when I asked whether a model is more than its constituent patterns - i.e. are there some instructions at the top-level of the model which tell you when/how to use one, or several, of its patterns (and in what order), in different contexts?

Cheers, Jon

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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Database of Patterns/Models04/11/2002 14:16:24Jon Edwards
     Re:Database of Patterns/Models - Database structure04/11/2002 14:50:45Jon Edwards
          Re:Re:Database of Patterns/Models - Database structure05/11/2002 12:42:03Michael Carroll
               Re:Re:Re:Database of Patterns/Models - Database structure05/11/2002 14:40:55Jon Edwards
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Database of Patterns/Models - Database structure05/11/2002 15:21:11Ulic
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Database of Patterns/Models - Database structure06/11/2002 11:49:08Jon Edwards
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Database of Patterns/Models - Database structure06/11/2002 15:43:21Ulic Paldroma
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Database of Patterns/Models - Database structure07/11/2002 10:33:38Jon Edwards
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Database of Patterns/Models - Database structure08/11/2002 03:31:20M Donk
     Re:Database of Patterns/Models05/11/2002 01:39:32Michael Carroll
          Answer to questions 06/11/2002 22:45:29Michael Carroll
               Re:Answer to questions 08/11/2002 06:43:43Harlan Kilstein
                    Re:Re:Answer to questions 09/11/2002 03:27:31Ulic

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