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Topic: Re:Applications: eye accessing cues
Posted by: Ian Newton
Date/Time: 07/11/2002 12:15:45

To study eye patterns in a lab seems to me like a fruitless waste of time and effort.

The study Guilherme quotes does not (on my quick reading of it on kevin hogan's website)make the basic distinction between content and process.

In order to correlate eye movements to rep sytems assumes accuracy in assessing the sequence (strategy)that the individual was running internally in order to respond to the question asked. In other words people do what they do, not what a 'theory' says they are supposed to do. Under unnatural experimental conditions you are even more likely to get a wide variety of responses.

As an example when asked what a warm bath feels like I may go through quite a sequence - e.g.repeat the question to myself (could be either Ad or Ar), then see myself in the bath (Vr or Vc or VK synaesthesia) and suddenly remember that I've run out of soap! (Vr or Vc or Ad) so remind myself to call in at the store on my way home (Ad Vc Vr), then forget what the questioner was asking (Ad Ki Ar)and so on and so on - part of the fun of being human is our ability to run all this very fast in our heads (and by the way even the above leaves out vast chunks of the entire process).

Then add in all the variables such as the context, level of rapport with the interviewer, analogue voice and physiology cues from the interviewer, state, physiology, anchoring etc.,etc.,and you may get a sense of why I suggest lab experiments are pointless

So here is a simple suggestion - if you really want to research eye accessing do so by watching (video taping) eye patterns in a 'natural' environment.

Even better practice your own accuracy in tracking and interpreting eye patterns by feeding back the sequence to the individual and pay attention to (un)conscious agreement or not with the fedback sequence. Highly unscientific (more of an art form) but extremely effective and a fantastic convincer for the individual that eye accessing 'works'.

This does presuppose you can track them and my guess is that if you need to experiment in a lab then you probably don't have the sensory acuity to do so or you wouldn't need 'an experiment' to convince you of their usefulness!

And by the way I am not endorsing the original  'classic' model of eye patterns as correct just suggesting that it is a useful starting point !

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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Applications: eye accessing cues06/11/2002 11:00:48Brian
     Re:Applications: eye accessing cues06/11/2002 13:13:09Tone
          Re:Re:Applications: eye accessing cues06/11/2002 23:03:12Lars Ejstrup Gredal
     Re:Applications: eye accessing cues06/11/2002 23:53:36Michael Carroll
          Re:Re:Applications: eye accessing cues07/11/2002 04:37:33Guilherme
               Re:Applications: eye accessing cues07/11/2002 12:15:45Ian Newton
                    Re:Re:Applications: eye accessing cues07/11/2002 15:10:15Jim R
                         Re:Re:Re:Applications: eye accessing cues04/12/2003 11:47:56Pete West
               Re:Re:Re:Applications: eye accessing cues07/11/2002 13:04:50Web Master
               Re:Re:Re:Applications: eye accessing cues07/11/2002 13:04:53Web Master
               Re:Re:Re:Applications: eye accessing cues03/02/2003 11:23:29Andy Bradbury
          Re:Re:Applications: eye accessing cues13/11/2002 22:24:17Brian Johnson
     Re:Applications: eye accessing cues07/11/2002 17:53:00John Grinder
          ReReReReRe:Applications: I's re-accessing cues08/11/2002 02:13:32TinaBrown
          Re:Re:Applications: eye accessing cues29/01/2003 09:37:58Andy Bradbury
               Re:Re:Re:Applications: eye accessing cues13/10/2003 17:28:50Garry Platt
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Applications: eye accessing cues02/12/2003 03:47:07Kevin Hogan
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Applications: eye accessing cues02/12/2003 23:13:41Michael Carroll
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Applications: eye accessing cues15/12/2003 21:28:07vince
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Applications: eye accessing cues15/12/2003 16:41:34Andrew Bradbury
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Applications: eye accessing cues15/12/2003 18:17:52Ryan Nagy
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Applications: eye accessing cues16/12/2003 01:11:07nj
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Applications: eye accessing cues16/12/2003 16:04:00Diogenese
     Re:Applications: eye accessing cues16/12/2003 16:53:40Diogenese

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