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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Modelling and First Position
Posted by: Michael Carroll
Date/Time: 27/11/2002 00:59:21


You wrote

"Together with the realisation, on further exploration, that what I thought was my "normal" first position is actually contaminated by second, you have helped me resolve to delve deeper into this whole area. No wonder some aspects of first position felt uncomfortable...I haven't lived there fully for quite some time!!"

I cite a case where a modeller developed diabetes after extensive DTI with Milton Erickson - as evidence of the power of assuming another person's filters through DTI.  Whether the shift (DTI) is conscious or unconscious the effects are equally as profound.

My first thought- is how important it is for a Medical Doctor GP - to arrange his/her filters so their own physical and mental health is maintained in full health. As we have discussed over identification through PP2 is something that could impact physical health over a period of time. There is the other thing to consider is  the perceptual position and state the doctor is in when presenting the diagnosis - to avoid the possibility of self-suggestion.

My hallucination is that many Doctors know of what can occur as result of what is loosely called " over identification with patient" in the medical field, but few doctors have the resources we have been discussing in this thread-  to arrange their filters both consciously  an unconsciously to support them. When I refer to resources I mean a simple understanding of how to use perceptual positions and develop unconscious signals within themselves. I would consider this vital education for people working in the medical field and am curious if such training is now occurring in universities for the doctors of the future and what training is currently available to practising medical doctors?

Has any one ever modelled doctors who are excellent in their field who maintain excellent physical health to discover what mental processes they employ to maintain excellent health?  This would be high value project "government health organistions" world wide and the individuals in the field.


Michael Carroll

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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Modelling and First Position25/11/2002 21:24:17Lewis Walker
     Re:Modelling and First Position26/11/2002 01:33:35Michael Carroll
          Re:Re:Modelling and First Position26/11/2002 21:51:36Lewis Walker
               Re:Re:Re:Modelling and First Position27/11/2002 00:59:21Michael Carroll
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Modelling and First Position27/11/2002 14:53:55Lewis Walker
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Modelling and First Position27/11/2002 15:30:42John Grinder
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Modelling and First Position27/11/2002 20:38:36Lewis Walker
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Modelling and First Position29/11/2002 17:12:43John Grinder
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Modelling and First Position28/11/2002 11:11:52Robert
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Modelling and First Position28/11/2002 14:26:58Lewis Walker
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Modelling and First Position28/11/2002 20:04:33Michael Carroll
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Modelling and First Position07/12/2002 00:06:37Robert
                                   ReeRe:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Modelling and First Position17/12/2002 10:21:23Edward Somalone
                                        Re:ReeRe:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Modelling and First Position19/12/2002 01:10:28Michael Carroll
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Modelling and First Position20/07/2003 06:55:05Jeff Weakley
          Re:Re:Modelling and First Position02/07/2003 22:18:18Robin
               Re:Re:Re:Modelling and First Position21/07/2003 20:37:09Michael Carroll
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Modelling and First Position21/07/2003 23:21:42Robin
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Modelling and First Position22/07/2003 12:24:30Michael Carroll
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Modelling and First Position24/07/2003 01:07:14Robin
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Modelling and First Position26/07/2003 15:56:23Robin
     Re:Modelling and First Position21/07/2003 18:44:22John Schertzer
          Re:Re:Modelling and First Position22/07/2003 00:27:37Sean
               Re:Re:Re:Modelling and First Position22/07/2003 13:55:01John Schertzer
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Modelling and First Position24/07/2003 01:17:04Sean
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Modelling and First Position24/07/2003 01:50:13Michael Carroll
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Modelling and First Position24/07/2003 01:50:15Michael Carroll
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Modelling and First Position24/07/2003 14:03:29John Schertzer
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Modelling and First Position25/07/2003 02:45:49Sean

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