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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question of Form and Content
Posted by: John Grinder
Date/Time: 17/12/2002 02:54:30

John

Thanks for your description - now you have caught my attention.

Let us agree that having the choice of creating ambiguity (or not, depending on purpose and context) is an artistic choice. Futher the consequences can be salutary in the extreme - the kind of thing you describe as a positive opening up, a drug experience or being turned into out.

Now let's make a couple of distinctions:

1. ambiguity is a event in which the surface strucutre of the verbal presentation can be mapped onto more than one underlying meaning. For example,

"Murdering peasants can be dangerous."

The two meanings are (roughly,

1. To murder peasants can be dangerous

2. Peasants who murder can be dangerous

This situation arises in English (but not necessarily other languages) by the rules of the syntax (form) of the language which permits two distinct underlying meanings to be mapped onto (or represented by) a single string of words.

This linguistic phenomenon (ambiguity) is to be sharply distinguished from vagueness as in

"Someone did something."

Now, help me appreciate the sense in which you attempt to create an ambiguity between form and content as you proposed in your posting.

It may be that we are using ambiguity in a distinct sense but have a shot at it, please.

John

So, help


Entire Thread

TopicDate PostedPosted By
A Question of Form and Content13/12/2002 21:17:14John Schertzer
     Re:A Question of Form and Content14/12/2002 01:39:13John Grinder
          Re:Re:A Question of Form and Content16/12/2002 13:47:23John Schertzer
               Re:Re:Re:A Question of Form and Content16/12/2002 18:29:49John Grinder
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question of Form and Content16/12/2002 21:55:17John Schertzer
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question of Form and Content17/12/2002 02:54:30John Grinder
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question of Form and Content17/12/2002 18:35:17John Schertzer
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question of Form and Content18/12/2002 20:43:26John Grinder
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question of Form and Content19/12/2002 19:04:36John Schertzer
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question of Form and Content23/12/2002 14:45:05Robert
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Question of Form and Content24/12/2002 17:15:44John Schertzer

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