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Topic: Re:Re:Understanding modeling
Posted by: Jeisyn Murphy
Date/Time: 08/01/2003 06:52:16

John and Carmen,

I'm very glad for this thread, especially here on the Whispering Forum.

John, you wrote to Martin: " It is interesting as we did not propose (and your point suggests that it might have been wise to do so) that congruency on the part of the a constant requirement, independent of the pattern being applied - analygous to rapport being a prerequisite to a successful application of patterning - good suggestion."

I agree that congruence is essential for both NLP modeling and NLP applications. I can review my past behaviors and see when I was behaving congruently and times when I was certainly not. I can also sense congruence (or its contrast) in other people. In my walks through many NLP training centers and in talking with practitioners from all over the world my experience has been that the word "congruence" is semantically dense and is not well-defined. I've heard some use "congruence" as if it were a behavioral moral code while others strictly use it to signify that a communication in one output channel is aligned with all other output channels thereby carrying the same message.

At this point, my understanding of congruence/incongruence seems to be very tacit and I would like your guidance in assisting me in defining the word with appropriate boundary conditions. I get very uncomfortable when I see an NLP practitioner hear the word, "congruent" and they start a "this is right/this is wrong" crusade. An example of this is when I overheard a student of an NLP trainer say, "Well you need to be careful taking classes from Dr. R. She smokes cigarettes and she's an NLP trainer--that's incongruent!"

Your help is appreciated,


Entire Thread

TopicDate PostedPosted By
Understanding modeling03/01/2003 21:29:49Martin Messier
     Re:Understanding modeling05/01/2003 19:00:32John Grinder
          Re:Re:Understanding modeling07/01/2003 15:14:42Lewis Walker
               Re:Re:Re:Understanding modeling07/01/2003 17:57:00Martin Messier
          Re:Re:Understanding modeling08/01/2003 06:52:16Jeisyn Murphy
               Re:Re:Re:Understanding modeling08/01/2003 14:59:28kc
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Understanding modeling08/01/2003 16:10:25Jeisyn Murphy
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Understanding modeling08/01/2003 17:59:21Lewis Walker
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Understanding modeling08/01/2003 21:13:12Jeisyn
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Understanding modeling08/01/2003 23:39:56Lewis Walker
                         ReReReReRe:Re:Re:Re:Re:Understanding modeling09/01/2003 02:51:49kc

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