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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Congruency and modeling
Posted by: John Grinder
Date/Time: 11/01/2003 17:44:40

Hi Martin, Lewis...

I use a simple operational definition of congruency - the alignment at a point in time of all resources. The most immediate metaphor for me is a leap executed by a superb dancer - everything is either moving in that direction (the leap) with maximum force or is supporting that movement (providing a base...).

I like very much Lewis' distinction between congruity and integrity - yes, of course, we are babbling about nominalizations and without contextualization there is questionable value in such ramblings. Nevertheless, I find the application of the term "integrity", more or less, cross-contextual congruity, attractive. There are other aspects of integrity that are equally important from my point of view - for example, to have integrity, a person must demonstrate that he or she has a choice when unexpectedly and forcefully confronted with a stimulus that typically activates a synesthesia circuit. In this sense, achieving choice implies having the option of responding using the typical synesthesia circuitry or operating with an interrupted circuit so as to select your response, down to and including the immediate physiological reactions.  

It seems to me that all learning (as mentioned in the thread) inherently involves incongruity - as soon as I identify something that someone else can do consistently with grace and effectiveness that I would like to be able to do but up to present have not learned to do, I enter into a state of incongruity. This is a portion of the way I motivate myself to act. I would propose that this is a distinct class of incongruity from those cases (for example, described in Magic II, section I where a person has two "parts" with conflicting standards, perceptions, rules of behaviors). This, of course, point to an nearly completely unexplored and unmapped question about the taxonomy of incongruity (and congruity, for that matter) - one of the myriad of tasks before in develop NLP into a well-defined activity. 

I mention in passing that there is a need to develop in an explicit form transition strategies for moving cleanly from one state to the next. In what I witness in the world, many people have difficulty cleanly exiting and entering distinct states, especially at high speed.

Interesting thread - thanks!


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Congruency and modeling09/01/2003 04:12:48Martin Messier
     Re:Congruency and modeling09/01/2003 13:12:51Lewis Walker
          Re:Re:Congruency and modeling09/01/2003 14:59:23Zhi Zhi Chien
          Re:Re:Congruency and modeling09/01/2003 15:09:14Martin Messier
               Re:Re:Re:Congruency and modeling11/01/2003 17:44:40John Grinder
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Congruency and modeling11/01/2003 19:17:55Lewis Walker
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Congruency and modeling12/01/2003 06:28:38John Grinder
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Congruency and modeling12/01/2003 10:55:13Lewis Walker
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Congruency and modeling12/01/2003 17:48:59John Grinder
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Congruency and modeling13/01/2003 20:52:07Lewis Walker
                              Stalking15/01/2003 23:25:34Lars Ejstrup Gredal
                                   Re:Stalking16/01/2003 15:21:00Lewis Walker
                                        Re:Re:Stalking16/01/2003 23:04:25Lars Ejstrup Gredal
                                             Re:Re:Re:Stalking17/01/2003 16:47:37Lewis Walker
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Stalking17/01/2003 19:21:11John Grinder
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Stalking17/01/2003 22:24:41Lewis Walker
                                                       process/content18/01/2003 00:15:36Lars Ejstrup Gredal
                                                            Re:process/content18/01/2003 18:58:51John Grinder
                                                                 Clean third19/01/2003 00:01:17Lars Ejstrup Gredal
                                                                      Re:Clean third19/01/2003 14:01:35Jon Edwards

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