to John Grinder: A/ Given that you wrote several new mails in the last couple of days, but didn't reply to sevral questions asked in anotehr tread, I would your attention again to your last mail concerning metaprograms. You wrote "When Frank arrived, I decided to play a little game (as posted by someone in these threads, as much to entertain myself, Richard and Frank as for research purposes). The game consisted in exploring the interface between language and the primary representational systems (VAK). I proceeded by asking Frank to put himself in a quiet state with excellent connections to his internal representations and simply report his experience when presented with various verbal stimuli. I then went through a series of prompts and received from Frank his descriptions of the internal processes by which he processed (or "understood") these prompts" especially since you write: 'the original "game" played by the three of us some decades ago is an exquisitely important "game". ' Given these 2 extracts from your mail, I and several other forum participants were asking more explanation about this game, perhaps with a concrete example.  In my case, I would like to try it out. B/ In whispering p.122 you mention we (the children) - how many brothers and sisters do you have, how many are older & younger? C/ In whisperin, p.123 you mention your BA.  What did you study during your BA? respectfully, Patrick www.merlevede.biz