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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:are metaprograms part of NLP
Posted by: Robert
Date/Time: 31/01/2003 19:19:40

Michael thx for the answer.
"Imagine if Grinder and Bandler said in the 70’s – right  we are going to model Erickson by having him fill out this questionnaire, I expect Milton would have been highly entertained and his alleged nutshell quote might be they (the nuts) even missed the shell."

Agreed.
I guess this has to do with using calibration as the main tool and not any nice questionaries using statistics.

I never found writing down anything the client said as useful since it was more to notice what was happening to the client when change occour or at the information gathering phase.

Sometimes the language used by John dosnt make sense. What I can conclude is that some of the references John uses isnt explicit in his answers.

Anyhow,
using calibration to observe patterns into what goes on at the given time are a crucial skill.
Selecting what occours at preFA and FA and post FA are one category the practitioner can use to understand what goes on.

It seems at least to how NLP:ers does things that if your not good at doing changework it seems you also tend to lack the basic skills to do modeling also. The shift in positions and lack of questionning what goes on is greatly missing.

Just some thoughts.

be well

/Robert


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
are 30/12/2002 09:20:02Patrick E.C. Merlevede, MSc. (jobEQ.com)
     Re:are 30/12/2002 16:59:58Jolhn Grinder
          Re:Re:are metaprograms part of NLP30/12/2002 21:17:39Patrick E.C. Merlevede, MSc. (jobEQ.com)
               Re:Re:Re:are metaprograms part of NLP31/12/2002 17:41:47John Grinder
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:are metaprograms part of NLP01/01/2003 07:53:46Patrick E.C. Merlevede, MSc. (jobEQ.com)
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:are metaprograms part of NLP01/01/2003 07:53:54Patrick E.C. Merlevede, MSc. (jobEQ.com)
                         :are 01/01/2003 20:57:06metro
                              Re::are 01/01/2003 22:09:06Patrick E.C. Merlevede, MSc. (jobEQ.com)
               Re:Re:Re:are metaprograms part of NLP02/01/2003 04:17:06John Grinder
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:are metaprograms part of NLP02/01/2003 06:20:32Guilherme
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:are metaprograms part of NLP02/01/2003 07:37:09John Grinder
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:are metaprograms part of NLP02/01/2003 08:56:51Patrick E.C. Merlevede, MSc. (jobEQ.com)
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:are metaprograms part of NLP02/01/2003 08:35:17Patrick E.C. Merlevede, MSc. (jobEQ.com)
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:are metaprograms part of NLP03/01/2003 00:19:36Michael Carroll
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:are metaprograms part of NLP03/01/2003 07:57:18Patrick E.C. Merlevede, MSc. (jobEQ.com)
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:are metaprograms part of NLP03/01/2003 10:38:26Ron
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:are metaprograms part of NLP03/01/2003 18:47:08Michael Carroll
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:are metaprograms part of NLP07/01/2003 05:47:58Patrick E.C. Merlevede, MSc. (jobEQ.com)
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:are metaprograms part of NLP08/01/2003 20:23:05Robert
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:are metaprograms part of NLP16/01/2003 00:03:19Michael Carroll
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:are metaprograms part of NLP31/01/2003 19:19:40Robert
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:are metaprograms part of NLP01/02/2003 03:30:33John Grinder
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:are metaprograms part of NLP03/01/2003 17:58:13nj
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:are metaprograms part of NLP03/01/2003 19:22:44Patrick E.C. Merlevede, MSc. (jobEQ.com)
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:are metaprograms part of NLP07/01/2003 00:54:12nj
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:are metaprograms part of NLP07/01/2003 05:31:18Patrick E.C. Merlevede, MSc. (jobEQ.com)
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:are metaprograms part of NLP07/01/2003 20:39:13nj
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:are metaprograms part of NLP15/01/2003 19:54:30Patrick E.C. Merlevede, MSc. (jobEQ.com)
                                                       topic:are metaprograms part of NLP, to: Mr. Merlevede. Subject: Modeling27/01/2003 21:40:41nj
                                                            Re:topic:are metaprograms part of NLP, to: Mr. Merlevede. Subject: Modeling01/02/2003 06:47:32Patrick E.C. Merlevede, MSc. (jobEQ.com)
                                                                 Re:Re:topic:are metaprograms part of NLP, to: Mr. Merlevede. Subject: Modeling09/02/2003 09:21:59nj
                                                                      Re:Re:Re:topic:are metaprograms part of NLP, to: Mr. Merlevede. Subject: Modeling09/02/2003 12:48:51Patrick E.C. Merlevede, MSc. (jobEQ.com)
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:topic:are metaprograms part of NLP, to: Mr. Merlevede. Subject: Modeling09/02/2003 21:22:05nj
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:are metaprograms part of NLP02/01/2003 09:33:51Patrick E.C. Merlevede, MSc. (jobEQ.com)
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:are metaprograms part of NLP02/01/2003 10:23:56Patrick E.C. Merlevede, MSc. (jobEQ.com)
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:are metaprograms part of NLP02/01/2003 11:07:23metro
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:are metaprograms part of NLP02/01/2003 20:43:05Jim R
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:are metaprograms part of NLP02/01/2003 22:16:21Patrick E.C. Merlevede, MSc. (jobEQ.com)
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:are metaprograms part of NLP03/01/2003 03:24:10Harlan Kilstein
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:are metaprograms part of NLP03/01/2003 17:42:32Jim R
                    Are metaprograms part of NLP?08/01/2003 04:50:54thepropagandist
                         Re:Are metaprograms part of NLP?08/01/2003 21:34:05Patrick E.C. Merlevede, MSc. (jobEQ.com)
                              Re:Re:Are metaprograms part of NLP?08/01/2003 23:42:01thepropagandist
               Re:Re:Re:are metaprograms part of NLP02/01/2003 15:07:09Lewis Walker

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