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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Moshe Feldenkrais
Posted by: Eric
Date/Time: 15/02/2003 02:12:11

Hi John,

Thanks for the historical notes and comments, and encouragement to code anything not already coded.

What were the results of the "miracles" you performed with wheelchair bound people in London? And what do you think the components of each technology were?

Several years after my initial exposure, and one year after my NLP practitioner training, my college offered a 5 day Feldenkrais class, which consisted of 5 hours of exercises with an hour and a half interim each day.

During and after the sessions, I experienced states that were similar to a "know nothing" state, as well as deep trance states. Besides what goes on at a physical level, a Feldenkrais session seems to be similar to constant handshake interupts, a repeated kinesthetic interrupt.

Feldenkrais involves interrupting wired in nervous system patterns. This may lead to increased congruency in a person because several conflicting motor sequences would not be running at the same time.

Feldenkrais for me was the piece that delivered kinesthetic congruency at a deep level, in terms of aligning my physiology with the strategies, chains of states, and shifts in suggestion that experience with NLP applications had delivered.

After the Feldenkrais workshop, I noticed the following:

1. Increased kinesthetic congruency between my words and states.

2. Increased ability to be in uncontaminated states and ability to keep them separate.

I assume both of these benifits occur because other pre-programmed physiological patterns weren't operating simultaneously.

If so, my guess is that the only way to do that would be with the actual movements. This leads me to think that the process may be at it's most mimimal form already, and would not be possible to reduce further.

Incidentally, quite soon after the Feldenkrais work, my ability to use NLP patterning both with myself and others skyrocked, (languaging, deep trance games, acting with very fine states of focus, etc.) as well as a number of communication breakthroughs in my ability to work with others.

- Eric

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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Moshe Feldenkrais12/02/2003 07:10:23Eric
     Re:Moshe Feldenkrais12/02/2003 19:30:38John Grinder
          Re:Re:Moshe Feldenkrais13/02/2003 22:48:46Ryan Nagy
               Re:Re:Re:Moshe Feldenkrais15/02/2003 02:12:11Eric
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Moshe Feldenkrais15/02/2003 02:56:25John Grinder
               Re:Re:Re:Moshe Feldenkrais15/02/2003 09:11:00nj
               Re:Re:Re:Moshe Feldenkrais16/02/2003 02:58:32Eric Rudnick
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Moshe Feldenkrais17/02/2003 05:31:30Eric
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Moshe Feldenkrais17/02/2003 20:21:25John Grinder
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Moshe Feldenkrais18/02/2003 02:39:37Eric Rudnick
          Re:Re:Moshe Feldenkrais23/02/2003 00:02:55Eric
               Re:Re:Re:Moshe Feldenkrais23/02/2003 10:47:07Robert
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Moshe Feldenkrais24/02/2003 00:08:32Eric Rudnick
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Moshe Feldenkrais25/02/2003 13:13:50Robert
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Moshe Feldenkrais26/02/2003 18:25:52John Grinder
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Moshe Feldenkrais27/02/2003 16:51:50Eric Rudnick
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Moshe Feldenkrais27/02/2003 19:32:04John Grinder
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Moshe Feldenkrais27/02/2003 19:50:35Eric Rudnick
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Moshe Feldenkrais27/02/2003 19:50:41Eric Rudnick
     Re:Moshe Feldenkrais16/02/2003 02:14:13Ryan Nagy
          Re:Re:Moshe Feldenkrais16/02/2003 17:20:18John Grinder
               Re:Re:Re:Moshe Feldenkrais/New Code19/02/2003 01:41:09Ryan Nagy
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Moshe Feldenkrais/New Code19/02/2003 03:25:39John Grinder
          Re:Re:Moshe Feldenkrais17/02/2003 19:39:12Eric Rudnick
          Re:Re:Moshe Feldenkrais18/02/2003 16:22:20Loren Larsen
               Re:Re:Re:Moshe Feldenkrais18/02/2003 18:09:28Eric

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