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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Modeling
Posted by: kc
Date/Time: 01/03/2003 16:14:52

Michael Carroll

On 2/27/03 00:52'56

you write the following excerpt:

"So compare the above steps for the modeling written up in Whispering see page 349 to 350. I have written the modeling steps at the bottom of this posts. So if you study both procedures'
you will see that NBG is different from true modeling as you don't have access to to the
model using NBG. 
The two sequences are different  in the sense that NBQ is about leArning a new beHavior  by changing Perceptual Positions and Modeling
isof course about coding taCit knowledge  so it becomes exPlicit. MoDeling is a laRger chunk."

You go on to write "If you're seeking similiarity from the two process's the perceptual position shift in the NBG and the unconcious uptake in in the modeling process are similiar because you are adJusting your fiLters to exPperience  the world from the peRspective of anOther with the goAl of
leArning new beHaviors. Back to diFFerences with moDeling you have direct access to."

Question: what does direct access (New Code procedures) provide me that indirect (NBG)
does not? Why is new code more informative and useful to use? How ?  And if I used J or R's  NBG model before I met the source  first hand would I be biasing my ability to use my new code procedures properly? Or would there be a benefit for me to start by shadow boxing using the NBG PRODCEDURES FIRST first before I meet PERSONALLY with a model?

I would appreciate you attention here to act on my email as I am right now at present looking to adjust A few unconcious filters ffffor my present modeling model of the world so that I may enrich my model of my world descriptions possibly from your or John or Carmens or others perceptual position here...........

thank you
Michael Carroll

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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Modeling24/02/2003 11:34:01Michael
     Re:Modeling Happiness24/02/2003 12:57:29JT
          Re:Re:Modeling Happiness25/02/2003 01:26:00Michael Carroll
     Re:Modeling26/02/2003 19:47:43John Grinder
          Re:Re:Modeling28/02/2003 06:48:14Michael
               Re:Re:Re; Whispeiring in the Wind site28/02/2003 14:48:49kc
               Re:Re:Re:Modeling01/03/2003 00:58:23Michael Carroll
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Modeling01/03/2003 16:14:52kc
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Modeling02/03/2003 19:44:28Michael Carroll
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Modeling03/03/2003 02:48:11kc
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Modeling03/03/2003 23:31:34Michael Carroll
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Modeling04/03/2003 00:19:24kc
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Modeling03/03/2003 10:12:26Michael
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Modeling03/03/2003 22:29:23Michael Carroll

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