John - Reading Whispering on the train ride home, I discovered that you had indeed given more detail about your relationship and interactions with Gregory Bateson- starting on page 90 and in the endnotes to the chapter. My mistake. I suppose that my process did not keep up with your content! Thanks - Ryan BTW - Kevin - Thanks for the info about the Bateson  Archive at UC Santa Cruz. I was able to find it online but, unfortunately, was not able to access it.