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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Deep Trance Identification
Posted by: Clive Alcock
Date/Time: 11/07/2002 01:48:49


OK - you've got me. So what is the next step (apart from acting now?)

I flew to San Diego yesterday and finished Whispering along the way, in preparation for a deep immersion in Ericksonian processes. Quite timely, I believe.

We have previously discussed process/content and subtance/form distinctions, however I am curious of your comments around Satir: "If you had Satir's guts". What if you could model Satir to understand and replicate her "intuition" (or tacit knowledge) - and then codify and teach that to others? Isn't this what you have done with multiple perceptual positions - particularly with respect to second position shifts? This move appears necessary for DTI.

Therefore, can one purely model form over substance or content over process? Or is the more intelligent question "how can one determine the appropriate balance between the two and be clear about the noise/patern ratio?"  Applying the minimalist approach, one could subtract both content and/or process components to determine the appropriate mix in codifying the patterns.

Your thoughts around these comments?

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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Deep Trance Identification19/05/2002 09:16:29Stephen M. Hawley
     Re:Deep Trance Identification19/05/2002 17:28:34John Grinder and Carmen Bostic
          Re:Re:Deep Trance Identification11/06/2002 14:02:13Clive Alcock
               Re:Re:Re:Deep Trance Identification11/06/2002 17:38:08John Grinder
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Deep Trance Identification24/06/2002 13:23:53Clive Alcock
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Deep Trance Identification30/06/2002 18:31:00John Grinder
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Deep Trance Identification01/07/2002 11:25:12Clive
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Deep Trance Identification01/07/2002 18:17:40John Grinder
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Deep Trance Identification11/07/2002 01:48:49Clive Alcock

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