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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mission, Purpose etc
Posted by: Johnn Grinder
Date/Time: 09/06/2003 16:42:12

Hi Spike

Well, first of all, let's agree that all counsel (or as you say, advice) is the advice giver talking to him or herself, what he or she would do were they the other party (the receiving party). If there is something in such reflexive pronouncements, great, go for it. Otherwise...

They passage I quote in the "advice" is Castenada's advice - from which I have gleaned positive experiences. Your "paraphrase" is not a paraphrase - it is an interpretation. Indeed, I disagree with the second of your interpretations entirely. Living in the future is as absurd as living in the past.

You wrote,

"...pages 334 to 344, where you and Bostic st Clair point to the fact that there are no formal characteristics defining the process/content distinction..."

This is not what Carmen and I presented in the pages cited - what we did propose is that the process/content (form/substance) distinction is essential as one of the key differentiator which distinguishes NLP application from all other (known to us) otherwise comparable systems. What we did point out in some detail is the we were not successful in developing a satisfactory formal definition. Further, while we offer a series of clear examples of each term in the distinction, we propose that is is critical to develop such a formal distinction - a puzzle we elucidated and invited the NLP community to get involved in pursuit of this formal distinction. Do you have a proposal or suggestion?

Finally, you wrote,

"...seem to say that it is a relational quality, so that content is content in relation to something, and the same goes for process..."

Lost me here - could you elaborate and offer a concrete example?

All the best,


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Mission, Purpose etc18/05/2003 13:09:50Jane
     Re:Mission, Purpose etc20/05/2003 18:22:31John Grinder
          Re:Re:Mission, Purpose etc21/05/2003 17:07:24Jane
               Re:Re:Re:Mission, Purpose etc21/05/2003 19:09:06John Grinder
                    Student of Everything.....Master of Nothing.....21/05/2003 20:34:16Mark MacLean
                         Re:Student of Everything.....Master of Nothing.....27/05/2003 20:06:32John Grinder
                              Postmodernism28/05/2003 17:10:15Golf Swing Modeler
                                   Re:Postmodernism28/05/2003 18:30:14John Grinder
                                        Re:Re:Postmodernism28/05/2003 22:11:47Golf Swing Modeler
                                             Re:Re:Re:Postmodernism29/05/2003 12:06:32Michael Carroll
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Postmodernism29/05/2003 12:21:58Golf Swing Modeler
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Postmodernism29/05/2003 16:49:40John Schertzer
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Postmodernism29/05/2003 16:52:42Golf Swing Modeler
                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Postmodernism29/05/2003 17:20:34John Schertzer
                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Postmodernism29/05/2003 18:15:10Golf Swing Modeler
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Postmodernism29/05/2003 19:13:29John Schertzer
                              Re:Re:Student of Everything.....Master of Nothing.....05/06/2003 23:52:47Mark MacLean
                                   Re:Re:Re:Student of Everything.....Master of Nothing.....06/06/2003 03:08:51John Grinder
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Student of Everything.....Master of Nothing.....06/06/2003 14:16:13John Schertzer
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Student of Everything.....Master of Nothing.....06/06/2003 19:50:17Mark MacLean
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Student of Everything.....Master of Nothing.....06/06/2003 20:06:10John Schertzer
                    Mission, Purpose etc22/05/2003 03:40:10thepropagandist
                         Re:Mission, Purpose etc27/05/2003 21:01:46John Schertzer
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Mission, Purpose etc09/06/2003 03:49:35Spike
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mission, Purpose etc09/06/2003 16:42:12Johnn Grinder
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mission, Purpose etc13/06/2003 03:08:17Spike

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