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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cartier-Bresson Phenomenology / Street Photography / An Aesthetic Way.
Posted by: John Schertzer
Date/Time: 17/06/2003 14:10:25

John,
I can appreciate you wanting to make that distinction, since implicit modeling, the way you've described it, is the one behavior furthest from anything I've ever heard about before.  Intentionally, that is.  I realize it is also basically the same process a child engages in most of the time, up until a pretty sophisticated level of language acquisition.

What I meant by extensions to the meta model, those not available in the initial modeling of Perls and Satir, are the ones mentioned, I believe, on page 151, while you're describing the problem of coding the patterns.  I think these add-ons were nominalizations, modal operators, and certain types of deletions.

I don't believe you made explicit whether Rep Systems were derived from the initial modeling.  From my take on what you've written, it was more of a game you and Bandler began playing based on general observations.  And I believe this model is at least as significant as the meta model in the development of NLP.

Of course, I realize these observations may have occurred to you indirectly due to this modeling, or because of the momentum you had gained in your enthusiasm (wish I was there). 

best,
JS


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                                                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Cartier-Bresson Phenomenology / Street Photography / An Aesthetic Way. 16/06/2003 09:00:13Stephen Bray
                                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cartier-Bresson Phenomenology / Street Photography / An Aesthetic Way. 16/06/2003 14:55:20John Schertzer
                                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cartier-Bresson Phenomenology / Street Photography / An Aesthetic Way. 16/06/2003 17:27:20John Grinder
                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cartier-Bresson Phenomenology / Street Photography / An Aesthetic Way. 16/06/2003 19:20:31John Schertzer
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                                                                                                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Cartier-Bresson Phenomenology / Street Photography / An Aesthetic Way. 17/06/2003 14:10:25John Schertzer
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