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Topic: Re:Bandler and nested loops
Posted by: Gabriel
Date/Time: 04/09/2003 17:07:33

Who wrote this article?

It is not accurate... although it gives an interesting introduction to the "nesting loops" concept.

Why is not accurate? For starters Bandler always teaches to start with 5 story loops, never less than 5. Plus the statement about not eliciting as you begin the story is the opposite of what he usually teaches and you can even verify this on a Mckenna-Breen videotape "State of the Art volume 2".

When he is building a "chain of states" by using nesting loops, he repeats the same secuence many times. Sometimes by coming back to the same story (eliciting the same state) more than twice.

Most of the ideas presented in this article are more likely to come from Tad James who uses some of the same phrasing in his book "Presenting Magically".

So that is why I would be interested to know who wrote the article.

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY HERE, I am pretty sure these are not quotes from Bandler... this might be paraphrasing something Bandler said + taking it out of context.

It even says "a story about..." and continues with a one liner about Grinder. If he (Bandler) told a story about something like that, he would have framed it carefully. Not simply said "everybody"... because he knows that would mean everyone goes to a Grinder program and Bandler would simply not do that kind of advertisement for his former partner.

I can even tell you what Bandler most likely would say about the "Grinder quote" as presented in the article, but I won't say it (write it) on this site.

BUT finally, what is the relevance of this article and discussion topic inside this forum?

I am into nesting loops and all, but is not part of WITW. There are times and places for everything.

Be well

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Bandler and nested loops 04/09/2003 14:53:29Bob
     Re:Bandler and nested loops 04/09/2003 15:49:37hey
          Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 04/09/2003 15:59:55Bob
     Re:Bandler and nested loops 04/09/2003 16:01:35Derrin Ferkil
          Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 05/09/2003 02:27:15Jim R
               Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 05/09/2003 03:03:36Derrin
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 06/09/2003 01:16:18Jim
               Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 05/09/2003 03:05:17Anthony
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 05/09/2003 03:21:52Frankie T.
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 05/09/2003 10:11:13sam
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 05/09/2003 13:08:50t
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 06/09/2003 00:16:53Frankie T
     Re:Bandler and nested loops 04/09/2003 17:07:33Gabriel
          Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 07/09/2003 20:29:06vee
               Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 08/09/2003 02:57:34Gabriel
          Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 15/03/2004 18:40:07Eric Robbie
               YEAH ! I'm dying to hear more about this !15/03/2004 19:16:12jonathan
               Re:Re:Re:Richard Bandler and his loops nesting 15/03/2004 23:32:55NY
               Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 16/03/2004 00:26:27nj
               Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 16/03/2004 04:17:57Tony
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 16/03/2004 05:19:03keith Harris
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 16/03/2004 12:58:20Tony
               Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 17/03/2004 00:20:31Robin Manuell
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 17/03/2004 20:43:13John Schertzer
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 18/03/2004 00:34:58Robin Manuell
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 22/03/2004 18:39:38Eric Robbie
               Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 17/03/2004 09:19:52Anthony
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 17/03/2004 10:22:59John Grinder
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 17/03/2004 13:24:00El ChupaCabra
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 17/03/2004 13:55:18Jon Edwards
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 17/03/2004 14:21:53John Schertzer
                                   feathering your nest17/03/2004 14:47:11jonathan
                                        Re:feathering your nest17/03/2004 15:02:48John Schertzer
                                        Re:feathering your nest18/03/2004 16:17:57El ChupaCabra
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 18/03/2004 00:49:45Robin Manuell
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 18/03/2004 15:39:25John Schertzer
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 18/03/2004 16:23:27El ChupaCabra
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 22/03/2004 17:56:28Michael Carroll
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 20/03/2004 02:17:56Michael Carroll
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 22/03/2004 09:10:47nj
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 30/03/2004 18:00:51Eric Robbie
     Re:Bandler and nested loops 06/09/2003 05:06:53catch
          Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 06/09/2003 05:44:28Tom Touseral
               Re:Re:Re:Bandler and nested loops 31/03/2004 02:49:45Chris W
     Re:Bandler and nested loops 08/09/2003 06:17:28InnerCalm

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