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Topic: Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction
Posted by: InnerCalm
Date/Time: 08/09/2003 05:55:31

That's a very open ended question Ed, it leaves the door open for one to question his own ethics, as well as Ross Jeffries' ethics.

I believe that I speak for many, as well as myself, when I say yes it is an ethical use of NLP, and also when I say no it is not an ethical use of NLP.

NLP has many uses, some good, some bad, just as a firearm can be used for good, as well as for bad.

No man is flawless, except he be a saint.

Ross Jeffries is no saint, IMHO.

Ironically, I discovered NLP when I stumbled across Ross' website, which lead to another seduction oriented site, and I practiced and used the materials their to sastify/fuel my lust for women.  

At some point I realized that NLP had much more potential than merely getting me laid.

That's when I somehow realized that it is ones own ethics or intention that makes the difference of whether or not a thing is good or bad, and just like opinions, everyone has their own intentions, although the intentions of one may or may not be considered ethical by another.

From this we could argue, that what is important is ones desired outcome, and to this we could add our ecology or our views of how we want to be percieved by others, and our concerns of how our actions affect others.

It's a complex formula that makes up each and everyone of us, and each and everyone of use has our own idea of what is ethical.

One thing is for sure, we only hear complaints when others have assumed in some way that you, me, or someone else has done harm to them in some way.

In contrast to that, we presuppose that all intentions are considered as positive from the point of view of the owner of that intention, because in their mind they had no other means by which to acheive their desired outcome.

In the case of Ross Jeffries, who is no doupt efficient in the use of NLP, would be considered capable of engineering his own means of achieving whatever he desires.

Is it ethical?  I'd say it's a matter of ones own ethics.

Ross Jeffries?  He's a greedy, horny bastard.

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Ross Jeffries Speed seduction21/08/2002 00:48:28Ed Schubert
     Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction21/08/2002 05:10:33Jim R
          Re:Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction21/08/2002 20:54:15John Grinder and Carmen Bostic St. Clair
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     Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction21/10/2002 20:41:42Rex Roach
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                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction13/05/2003 13:31:24Highlander984
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                                                  Re:Re:Re::Ross Jeffries Speed seduction16/07/2003 09:16:40Web Master
                                                       Re::Ross Jeffries Speed seduction16/07/2003 09:29:06Judy Sykes
          Re:Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction06/10/2003 04:17:31InnerCalm
          Re:Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction06/10/2003 04:18:00InnerCalm
     Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction23/07/2003 09:25:33Brendan Carl Clarke
          Re:Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction23/07/2003 18:45:42John Schertzer
               Re:Re:Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction31/07/2003 02:50:57Po
               Re:Re:Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction31/08/2003 20:08:43zanzibar
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction31/08/2003 21:00:26Jim R
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction01/09/2003 14:30:28Stephen Bray
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction02/09/2003 06:26:04Jim R
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction02/09/2003 08:01:36Stephen Bray
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction02/09/2003 12:51:12t
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction02/09/2003 14:12:45Stephen Bray
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction03/09/2003 04:12:14Jim R
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction06/10/2003 04:15:13InnerCalm
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction02/09/2003 13:47:03John Schertzer
     Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction08/09/2003 05:55:31InnerCalm
     Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction14/09/2003 14:57:55Iv4
          Re:Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction15/09/2003 13:13:25John Barrett
               Re:Re:Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction19/09/2003 21:00:29InnerCalm
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction19/09/2003 22:52:22jim r
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction20/09/2003 01:54:44InnerCalm
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction20/09/2003 18:00:57Iv4
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction21/09/2003 04:33:13John Grinder
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction22/09/2003 19:43:30InnerCalm
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction23/09/2003 00:15:56John Grinder
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction23/09/2003 03:00:22InnerCalm
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction24/09/2003 10:06:05Stephen Bray
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction06/10/2003 01:08:18InnerCalm
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction30/09/2003 14:42:00No games
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction23/09/2003 02:56:25Jim R
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction23/09/2003 05:57:18InnerCalm
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction23/09/2003 15:34:06zhizhichien
     Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction28/09/2003 02:15:30DaniGirl
          Re:Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction30/09/2003 14:31:23No Games
               Re:Re:Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction30/09/2003 16:32:57Jim r
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction05/10/2003 09:55:08Iv4
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction05/10/2003 18:48:28InnerCalm
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction06/10/2003 05:43:31Jim R
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                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction06/10/2003 07:48:55Stephen Bray
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                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction06/10/2003 13:39:07Stephen Bray
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                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ross Jeffries Speed seduction07/10/2003 23:35:54InnerCalm
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