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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Michael Carroll
Posted by: Todd Sloane
Date/Time: 28/09/2003 22:06:13

>I'm very focused (indirectly due to meditation I've practiced for 16+ years)and can keep track of individuals I'm with and their outcomes very well.

Sorry, I didn't mean those outcomes...

>I've never hear of triple description being used in this way to describe an information gathering process. I just call it getting several opinions and of course in the context you describe you'd be silly not to "survey" everybody. we're on the same page but we just use different semantics to label the process of getting input from many individuals in one contexts.

I'd like to add a self-correction here: I think a more accurate NLP label for this process is multiple descriptions rather than the triple description. Triple description being a specific instance of multiple descriptions that doesn't really apply in the example that I gave.
And I agree that there are many labels for this including: surveying everybody, getting input from many individuals, comprehensive needs assessment, 360 degree assessment, parts negotiation, among others. However, I rarely survey everybody.
I also now realize, as a result of this post, that the "real" work I do is utilizing the info I have gathered in the development and then delivery phases of a project. It's the difference in the perspectives that informs my decisions about format and content of delivery. (...speaking of self-modeling)

>I'm familiar with a process that includes a variation of that. in "My Life with Kumi", author/composer Michael Colgrass(trained by John Grinder) does a process he calls "self modeling"? which is designed for performance improvement.


>Curiously,don't you think that the map being changed depends on the chunk size of the new info???

From my perspective, a shift to 3rd position is, by definition, a change in chunk size as it is or creates, an outframe. (Larger than original context). To be more succint. I think that a shift to 3rd position will ALWAYS change the map. Kind of like re-membering changes the memory. Or, "You can't step in the same river twice."

Did you find any valuable learnings from your reading of my previous post? I had hoped that you would and hope even more to learn whether you did or not. :-)



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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Full-Time Change Workers Using New Code?18/09/2003 19:04:11Brian Mahoney
     Re:Full-Time Change Workers Using New Code?20/09/2003 13:04:53Johnson
          Re:Re:Full-Time Change Workers Using New Code?21/09/2003 07:09:00Jim R
               Re:Re:Re:Full-Time Change Workers Using New Code?21/09/2003 15:10:23Terrence Fullmore
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Full-Time Change Workers Using New Code?21/09/2003 18:29:30Jim R
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Full-Time Change Workers Using New Code?22/09/2003 13:45:07Doug F
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Full-Time Change Workers Using New Code?22/09/2003 15:05:01Stephen Bray
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Full-Time Change Workers Using New Code?22/09/2003 15:36:33Jim R
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Full-Time Change Workers Using New Code?22/09/2003 16:52:13Doug
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Full-Time Change Workers Using New Code?23/09/2003 02:38:46Jim
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Full-Time Change Workers Using New Code?23/09/2003 13:17:16Doug
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Full-Time Change Workers Using New Code?23/09/2003 21:18:02Jim R
          Re:Re:Full-Time Change Workers Using New Code?23/09/2003 00:01:28Michael Carroll
               Michael Carroll23/09/2003 17:10:25Johnson
                    Re:Michael Carroll24/09/2003 09:53:55Stephen Bray
                         Re:Re:Michael Carroll25/09/2003 15:05:16Stephen Bray
                              Re:Re:Re:Michael Carroll26/09/2003 03:01:06Todd Sloane
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Michael Carroll26/09/2003 08:03:35Stephen Bray
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Michael Carroll26/09/2003 14:42:31Jim R
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Michael Carroll27/09/2003 02:51:08Todd Sloane
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Michael Carroll28/09/2003 17:08:00Jim R
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Michael Carroll28/09/2003 22:06:13Todd Sloane
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Michael Carroll29/09/2003 01:18:18Jim R
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Michael Carroll30/09/2003 04:38:42Todd Sloane
     Re:Full-Time Change Workers Using New Code?30/09/2003 04:42:43Todd Sloane

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