| Topic: | Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Placebo and Know Nothing State |
| Posted by: | GSM |
| Date/Time: | 10/11/2003 09:58:15 |
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The point of this thread Todd, if you read Whispering, is that the authors eschew the feed-forward process as a way of reducing experience. To quote John Grinder on this forum, "This leads to self-fulfulling prophecies and all the other nonsense (note, non-sense) that accompanies the mental maps of a true believer." and "My personal observation is that westerners spend the vast majority of their life spinning in tight little circles of internal dialogue and obsessive cyclic repetitions of images and feelings that have little or nothing to do with their present circumstances - they are rarely present and in those flashs where actual present experience brings through to shake into the present, they nearly reflexly scramble to escape present experience (FA) and seek again the masking oblivion of repetitive thoughts (that is, non-experienctial activity) to reassure themselves that what they thought the world was like before this violent interruption of their cacooned existence still is what the world is like. They spend significant energy and time constructing and defending maps that are nearly entirely detached from experience. They finally succeed in positioning enough filters in a feedforward configuration that they will never again be troubled by experience as the filters allow only material to pass that confirms what they already believe." and finally this is tempered by "Each feedforward filter has a price (the elimination of those classes of experience not congruent with or relevant to your objective) - there are cases in which you may be willing to pay that price. However, you are still paying the price. That was my point." |