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Topic: Re:Re:Hypnosis as an Application of NLP
Posted by: Pam Brenner
Date/Time: 05/09/2002 13:30:35

Yes, Steven Gilligan is a beautiful person and an absolute master at Ericksonian hypnosis. Please, check him out if you are interested in the field.

I don't care what anybody says, but Bandler is a nightmare.  Sure, if you have the money and the time going to a Bandler workshop can be very interesting and, possibly (depending on your taste) entertaining.  But it would be extremely unethical of me not to share with you my conclusion after personal experience combined with conversations among many people.  Bandler is sloppy and lazy.  Yes, he is a genius, but if your goal is to learn something, he is simply not the best out there. He's not even close.  The myth of his mastery is silly after you watch him work these days.  Maybe there was a time when he 'had' it. He will always have enough devotees around him to create the impression that he's having huge impacts, but please, if money is an issue for you DON'T Spend  it on Richard.  There are just too many wonderful practioners out there. 

The cheapest and highest quality NLP training is being done in Ohio and Missouri by a wonderful man named Gene Rooney.  He's made it part of his mission in life to make high quality training affordable to anybody who wants it.  Check him out via L.E.A.D consultants.

Pam Brenner

P.S. Obviously, this is just my opinion about Richard Bander's compatency.  There will be many people who still believe he is worth the time and money. There are many people who insist that feeding their children candy bars for breakfast is fine alright as well.  Give Richard your money after you have worked with John Grinder or Robert Dilts or Gene Rooney or....  If you have money to spend after you have received high quality training and you are curious about the mysterious genius of Bandler, go to all his trainings.  He will tell you very clearly that even if you don't think you are learning a thing, he is installing deeply complex patterning via his jokes.  Oh, and if you do go to visit Richard, please observe his devotees (those people who have been to 3 or more of his trainings)very carefully and see if you can detect all of the patternings of excellence that Richard has been weaving into them.  One nice way of testing a trainer is to observe those who take the trainer very seriously and who spend time and energy working with the trainer. 


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Hypnosis as an Application of NLP03/09/2002 15:42:47Thomas
     Re:Hypnosis as an Application of NLP03/09/2002 17:34:54kc
     Re:Hypnosis as an Application of NLP04/09/2002 01:06:20Carmen Bostic and John Grinder
          Re:Re:Hypnosis as an Application of NLP05/09/2002 13:30:35Pam Brenner
               Re:Re:Re:Hypnosis as an Application of NLP05/09/2002 17:18:53Jim R
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Hypnosis as an Application of NLP05/09/2002 18:30:40Pam
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Hypnosis as an Application of NLP05/09/2002 18:47:11The Black Phantom
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hypnosis as an Application of NLP06/09/2002 05:12:12Pam
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hypnosis as an Application of NLP06/09/2002 14:23:34Jim R
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hypnosis as an Application of NLP07/09/2002 01:46:44Pam
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hypnosis as an Application of NLP03/09/2003 00:50:27julie H
                                             Re:An Application 03/09/2003 10:50:12Fredo
                                   Re:Hypnosis as an Application of NLP10/09/2002 11:25:18ThomasR
               Hypnosis as an Application of NLP - Pam10/09/2002 11:22:28ThomasR
     Re:Hypnosis as an Application of NLP08/09/2002 19:36:50Ron Klein, Cert. Trainer NLP & APA approved hynosis training provider
          Re:Re:Hypnosis as an Application of NLP08/09/2002 23:13:21Michael Carroll
     Re:Hypnosis as an Application of NLP10/09/2002 10:29:42ThomasR
          Re:Re:Hypnosis as an Application of NLP23/04/2003 17:13:34Robin Manuell
     Hypnosis as an Application of NLP/ MARS ATTACKS !!!11/09/2002 18:19:42angelica berlage
          Re:Hypnosis as an Application of NLP/ MARS ATTACKS !!!12/09/2002 08:41:59Thomas
               Re:Re:Hypnosis as an Application of NLP/ MARS ATTACKS !!!12/09/2002 12:07:44Victor Rathbone
               Re:Re:Hypnosis as an Application of NLP/ MARS ATTACKS !!!12/09/2002 12:08:01Victor Rathbone
                    Re:Re:Re:Hypnosis as an Application of NLP12/09/2002 13:08:17Thomas
               Re:Re:Hypnosis as an Application of NLP/ MARS ATTACKS !!!12/09/2002 13:06:52angelica berlage
                    Re:Re:Re:Hypnosis as an Application of NLP/ MARS ATTACKS !!!12/09/2002 13:21:19Thomas
                    Re:Re:Re:Hypnosis as an Application of NLP/ MARS ATTACKS !!!23/04/2003 17:19:14Robin Manuell
     Re:Hypnosis as an Application of NLP10/02/2003 17:53:01Yvonne
          Re:Re:Hypnosis as an Application of NLP10/02/2003 18:33:51yvonne
     Re:Hypnosis as an Application of NLP10/02/2003 17:57:23Yvonne
     Re:Hypnosis as an Application of NLP19/04/2003 22:38:30Tatina
          Re:Re:Hypnosis as an Application of NLP23/04/2003 20:19:12Jim R
               Re:Re:Re:Hypnosis as an Application of NLP23/04/2003 20:56:56John Schertzer
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Hypnosis as an Application of NLP24/04/2003 08:10:15Thomas
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Hypnosis as an Application of NLP24/04/2003 18:03:13Tatina
               Re:Re:Re:Hypnosis as an Application of NLP24/04/2003 17:54:22Tatina
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Hypnosis as an Application of NLP04/09/2003 02:56:53Jim R

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