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Topic: deep tissue bodywork effects on VAKOG structures
Posted by: jonathan
Date/Time: 16/02/2004 14:49:18

"a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of small
minds"-R.W.E.

Running in parallel to a gross excess of consciousness exploration throughout the 1980s
(every NLP and NLP like thing, EST and EST like things, a dab of Scientology just to make sure) I also heavily got into direct body consciousness activities. This was predominantly Rolfing by one of the strongest, baddest Rolfers in the field, closely intertwined by Alexander Technique, some Feldenkreis, Trager work, and whatever else happened by.
  NLP at the time was speaking to the critical importance of psysiology, posture, and so on as a determinant of states and access to states. Ida Rolf's position was that bodies tended to get locked into "physical memory" by the shape of the fascia (a dense, fibrous connective tissue that works like a stocking around and between the muscles). The Rolf philosophy claimed that postural chance or exercise alone could not bring about lasting (what we might call unconsciously maintained) change as the fascia would inevitably draw the physical structure back to its "attractor basin".
  Taking Dr. Rolf at her word, my Rolfer and I might have broken a few records for intensity, frequency, and unorthodoxy of application. One time we did 11 sessions in 11 days (sequential, no rest days in between) and another time 6 oro-facial sessions in 6 days without a break.
   Painful ? Shhheeeyeah.... about like stone age tribal initiation.... productive, though.
   I began to experience massive VAKOG shifts, freakish stuff, wild increases in sensory acutity, diaphagmatic coordination, orgasmic potential... all of which NLP was alluding to in the abstract, but Rolfing etc... was concretely transforming.
   The NLP component allowed me to have greater appreciation for what was occuring. Without the hyper-bodywork I believe that the pure NLP statework effects would have been relatively trivial though. (saying this through the opportunity of being in the position to experience the contrast first person)


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deep tissue bodywork effects on VAKOG structures16/02/2004 14:49:18jonathan
     Re:deep tissue bodywork effects on VAKOG structures17/02/2004 14:18:48John Schertzer
          feeling the unity17/02/2004 17:52:59jonathan
               Re:feeling the unity17/02/2004 19:45:13John Schertzer
                    Re:Re:feeling the unity18/02/2004 14:13:44jonathan
                         Re:Re:Re:feeling the unity18/02/2004 14:22:01Stephen
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:feeling the unity18/02/2004 15:53:23jonathan
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:feeling the unity18/02/2004 17:05:31John Schertzer
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:feeling the unity19/02/2004 12:49:16jonathan
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:feeling the unity19/02/2004 14:27:50John Schertzer
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:feeling the unity19/02/2004 18:56:47jonathan
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:feeling the unity19/02/2004 20:21:50John Schertzer
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:feeling the unity20/02/2004 11:18:23jonathan
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:feeling the unity19/02/2004 20:26:52jonathan
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:feeling the unity19/02/2004 20:43:47Pete West
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:feeling the unity19/02/2004 22:05:04Todd
                                                       Re: Lowman Walking Board20/02/2004 07:17:02Pete West
                                                  Orbotron20/02/2004 16:26:04jonathan
                                                       Re:Orbotron20/02/2004 16:34:46jonathan
                                                            Re:Re:Orbotron20/02/2004 18:30:26Pete West
                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Orbotron20/02/2004 19:28:44jonathan
                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Orbotron20/02/2004 20:25:48Pete West
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Orbotron20/02/2004 22:41:26jonathan
                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Orbotron21/02/2004 01:47:33Pete West
                                                                                     organization21/02/2004 12:39:12jonathan
                                                                                          Re:organization21/02/2004 16:37:55.
                                                                                               Re:Re:organization21/02/2004 17:20:21jonathan
                                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:organization22/02/2004 02:46:39Webster
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Orbotron20/02/2004 22:56:12nj
                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Orbotron21/02/2004 01:48:20Pete West

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