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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ethics, second position, and abstraction
Posted by: nj
Date/Time: 16/05/2004 01:45:28

Hmm.  interesting, E_lie.

I will propose that retributive justice starts with an assumption that something has been lost which can't be regained.  Pain and suffering, an eye (as in, an-eye-for-an-eye).

If you want to approach this, and you consider vigilante justice equivalent to retributive justice, then here are a few ideas:

1. someone steals your idea, patents it, and sells the patent.  The purchaser, for the sake of the example, has legal ownership of the patent, regardless of whether you or the thief is eventually identified as the developer.

2. someone hits you in your car, maiming your leg, and leaving one of your feet without a toe.

3. someone hurts your feelings, when you're in love with her/him, and then comes back, later, after neither of you is in love with each other, but you still experience the hurt you felt, sometimes, even after visiting several NLP therapists, whose methods didn't change that feeling for you.

4.  someone kills your friends, and your family, and continues to threaten you.  Then that person is captured by you, and rendered helpless.  Despite being helpless, you don't know whether the killer is remorseless.

I might have more appropriate thought experiments to offer, once I've read Rawl's book.  I think that all of [1]-[4] can be immanent in your use of triple description.  I'm not so sure about prescribing the symptom, maybe you could elaborate on what "prescribing the symptom" entails. 


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Ethics, second position, and abstraction05/05/2004 10:01:13nj
     Re:Ethics, second position, and abstraction05/05/2004 15:40:17Amilcarkabral
          Re:Re:Ethics, second position, and abstraction05/05/2004 20:53:04nj
               Re:Re:Re:Ethics, second position, and abstraction06/05/2004 13:58:59Amilcar
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Ethics, second position, and abstraction09/05/2004 10:01:58nj
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ethics, second position, and abstraction14/05/2004 18:27:10nj
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ethics, second position, and abstraction14/05/2004 19:03:21nj
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ethics, second position, and abstraction14/05/2004 20:41:24Elie
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ethics, second position, and abstraction14/05/2004 20:55:05
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ethics, second position, and abstraction14/05/2004 21:15:07Eli
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ethics, second position, and abstraction15/05/2004 02:32:47E_lie
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ethics, second position, and abstraction15/05/2004 09:06:40
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ethics, second position, and abstraction15/05/2004 10:04:02e_lie
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ethics, second position, and abstraction15/05/2004 10:51:25e_lie
                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ethics, second position, and abstraction15/05/2004 19:51:14nj
                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ethics, second position, and abstraction16/05/2004 01:05:51e_lie
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ethics, second position, and abstraction16/05/2004 01:33:24e_lie
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ethics, second position, and abstraction16/05/2004 01:45:28nj
                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ethics, second position, and abstraction16/05/2004 03:40:51e_lie
                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ethics, second position, and abstraction16/05/2004 05:13:33
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Ethics, second position, and abstraction16/05/2004 09:40:59e_lie
                                                                                               relevant links16/05/2004 10:08:56e_lie
     Re:Ethics, second position, and abstraction05/05/2004 20:59:32nj
          Re:Re:Ethics, second position, and abstraction06/05/2004 18:57:20GSM
     Positive intentions and Ethics26/05/2004 01:45:59Greg Alexander
          Re:Positive intentions and Ethics27/05/2004 18:46:19nj
               Re:Re:Positive intentions and Ethics28/05/2004 00:53:27Greg Alexander
                    Re:Re:Re:Positive intentions and Ethics28/05/2004 06:20:40nj
                         Re:Positive intentions and Ethics28/05/2004 11:23:53Greg Alexander
                              Re:Re:Positive intentions and Ethics28/05/2004 18:58:15nj
                                   Re:Re:Re:Positive intentions and Ethics29/05/2004 03:07:52Greg Alexander
                              Re:Re:Positive intentions and Ethics28/05/2004 21:29:50nj

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