| Topic: | Re:Re:Re:Descartes' original sin |
| Posted by: | John Schertzer |
| Date/Time: | 28/03/2005 16:52:08 |
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Ryan, Not so fast. I restate that: once you imagine you have an observing mind, then... I never meant to propose that there was such a thing, and neither do I propose that there is not such a thing, only that acting as-if there were has certain consequences, which I won't reiterate. Besides, if one can have F1 and F2 filters, one might as well have an observing mind anyway. The whole notion of there being filters presupposes a duality, to begin with. I don't feel I'd bode well at a contest to see who could be more or less cartestian, since I'm not very adept at keeping track of where I am from one moment to the next -- not having a very well developed (imaginary) observing mind -- but I'd just like to point out that Descarte is very much alive and prospering in new code, at least in its epistemology. But in general perhaps the split is engendered on the sensory level. With my hand I can feel, and with my eyes I can see my hand. These are two very different experiences. I can also talk about what I see, and have sensations that occur on account of my internal dialog. My kinesthetics can change the way I see and hear, and the way my hand looks may change, and the voice inside my head, or coming from my lips, can also seem different from the usual sensory map I have of them. Of course, if I successfully shut up for a moment, that will also cause a radical disruption in how I recognize/represent myself (sic). best, JS |