| Topic: | Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Descartes' original sin - f1/f2 |
| Posted by: | GSM |
| Date/Time: | 01/04/2005 17:26:31 |
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John S, In philosophy there's an ever ongoing debate between dualism and monism, where both camps keep effusing the benefits of their positions. Perhaps rather than just proposing it could be advantageous out of choice to apply an 'as if' dualistic position, you could give us established examples. As for understanding the mind/body system, I like to refer to levels of understanding..whereby we can appreciate higher logical levels of patterning which come in the form of f2 transforms and can span across ranges of time and space, and alternatively appreciate some of the realtime physiological activities that are experienced in any given moment at FA or what might be experienced during a know nothing state. We all have experienced focus of attention as not being synonymous with an awareness of this ongoing physiolgoical activitiy... parts of the mind/body system are regulating our body temperature etc.. if you imagine something scary your mind/body system may raise blood pressure and start to sweat even if it detects a reduction in temperature of the air on your skin.... When we daydream we sometimes find ourselves in a different time and place, but are we? A lot of NLP is about reconnecting our awareness to this ongoing physiological activities..rather than focusing visuals, sounds and words as being distinctly seperate to that entire system. The dichotomoy you may have been sensing here may be due to the fact that when we utilise f2 transforms we are also engaging in a realtime state too, and in pure mind/body terms we are..there is no seperation. An appreciation of there being no seperation is how one understands fully the nature of an f2 transform. If someone interprets an f2 transform as being seperate from everthing else, a cartesian split between f1 and f2 then one has misuderstood the core nature of an f2 transform. F1 and f2 transforms are not mutually exclusive since by induction an f2 transform is a product of f1 transforms and first access - there is no cartesian split there. If you think of an f2 transform as a higher logical level code, then you can appreciate that this code (as exemplified in the meme concept) can travel between participants, through time and space itself although each interpretation will of course be unique and f2 transforms can evolve (a larmarkian type of evolution), however there will be an overlap of meaning that maintains the f2 transform coherence if its to have any utility or meaningful exchange at all. Given all of this, where in your opinion is the benefit in maintaining a cartesian split? Best Regards, GSM |