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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Holes in Whispering epistomology
Posted by: John Grinder
Date/Time: 22/04/2005 19:18:23

Juan

I will wait until you have made your presentation before offering much in the way of comment. I will point out that there is a lot of looseness in your presentation:

1. if you are serious about formalism, you will have to offer (at least) an operational definition of the fundamental terms of your system (O is OK; N is wholly unclear  and E is undefined - are you using the term in the same manner as Whispering where it is relatively well-defined or have you something else in mind?

2. you write,

"Experience the TOTALITY of what’s going on in the present. (You can even take a second to relate all this to your experience right Now)."

Putting a term that is undefined in a definition of another term is a tautology - even if you CAPITALIZE it.

3. you write,

"So here we are, human living beings trying to understand how we do what we do, and how do we know what we think we know."

If I were to characterize what I do, it certainly would not be "trying to understand" anything - learning to do new and interesting things does not imply "understanding" another loose term.

Please note that in the epistemology of Whispering, experience (FA) is by definition an already transformed version of whatever is out there.

Juan - I offer these comments to suggest that you might make a more forceful case if you took more care with the presentation. I suggest that rather than responding to what I presented here, you simply take the comments into account in your further elabloration of an alternative epistemology,.

John




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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Holes in Whispering epistomology15/03/2005 17:16:23Thomas William Heard
     Re:Holes in Whispering epistomology15/03/2005 22:36:42GSM
          Re:Re:Holes in Whispering epistomology16/03/2005 15:52:45Thomas William Heard
               Re:Re:Re:Holes in Whispering epistomology16/03/2005 18:19:17GSM
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Holes in Whispering epistomology & partial isomorphism17/03/2005 17:41:23GSM
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Holes in Whispering epistomology & partial isomorphism19/03/2005 12:34:42Thomas William Heard
     Re:Holes in Whispering epistomology17/03/2005 02:45:33John Grinder
          Re:Re:Holes in Whispering epistomology19/03/2005 12:07:05Thomas William Heard
               Re:Re:Re:Holes in Whispering epistomology20/03/2005 02:10:28John Grinder
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Holes in Whispering epistomology20/03/2005 16:12:49Thomas William Heard
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Holes in Whispering epistomology20/03/2005 20:21:07GSM
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Holes in Whispering epistomology20/03/2005 21:15:23Thomas William Heard
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Holes in Whispering epistomology20/03/2005 22:50:38GSM
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Holes in Whispering epistomology - monism21/03/2005 11:43:06GSM
          Re:Re:Holes in Whispering epistomology11/04/2005 12:07:14Juan Arce
               Re:Re:Re:Holes in Whispering epistomology13/04/2005 04:59:01John Grinder
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Holes in Whispering epistomology13/04/2005 10:36:02Juan Arce
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Holes in Whispering epistomology13/04/2005 15:32:44John Schertzer
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Holes in Whispering epistomology13/04/2005 17:29:26John Grinder
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Holes in Whispering epistomology14/04/2005 10:20:32Juan Arce
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Holes in Whispering epistomology22/04/2005 13:20:55Juan Arce
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Holes in Whispering epistomology22/04/2005 19:18:23John Grinder
          Re:Re:Holes in Whispering epistomology08/07/2005 02:14:56Cad Moltson
     Re:Holes in Whispering epistomology18/03/2005 02:01:06nj
          Re:Re:Holes in Whispering epistomology19/03/2005 13:00:31Thomas William Heard
          Re:Re:Holes in Whispering epistomology21/03/2005 16:48:01GSM
               Re:Re:Re:Holes in Whispering epistomology21/03/2005 21:11:31Thomas William Heard
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Holes in Whispering epistomology22/03/2005 15:57:33GSM
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Holes in Whispering epistomology13/04/2005 21:08:50Thomas William Heard
     Re:Holes in Whispering epistomology19/03/2005 19:02:54Andy B.
     Re:Holes in Whispering epistomology22/06/2005 12:57:41Thomas William Heard
          Re:Re:Holes in Whispering epistomology29/06/2005 03:16:21James Tsakalos
               Re:Re:Re:Holes in Whispering epistomology29/06/2005 22:16:32Thomas William Heard
     Re:Holes in Whispering epistomology29/06/2005 20:00:37John Schertzer

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