Hi Oleg, You wrote, "you're okay with the unconscious uptake phase when you can secure the same response from the client your model does. The only thing I want to say is that this criterion cannot be applied in the mountain case" Perhaps this comparison might help - a) you're okay with the unconscious uptake phase when you can secure the same response from the client your model does - that is, the client lets you help her solve a specific problem b) you're okay with the unconscious uptake phase when you can secure the same response from the mountain your model does - that is, the mountain lets you climb her, via a specific route (Note that on each mountain there will be many routes to the top, some more difficult than others - you're aiming to be able to climb one of similar difficulty to the one your model (the expert climber) can do) Hope that's helpful! Cheers, Jon