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Topic: Re:Re:Categorical Logic & Either/Or. Topic: Epistemology.
Posted by: nj
Date/Time: 06/11/2003 22:21:29

Hello, Todd.

You wrote:

(1) "'Examples of complementary predicates are listed in predicate pairs (6) through (10).

(6) caucasian/noncaucasian
(7) healthy/nonhealthy
(8) excellent/nonexcellent
(9) capitalist/noncapitalist
(10) friend/nonfriend'

Is this your personal definition? Or a formal definition?"

The terms "complementary predicate" and "contrary predicate" are used by an author of a logic textbook, Todd.

You wrote me the question:

(2) "Do you think the pair (for example) healthy/nonhealt[h]y and the pair healthy/not healthy are identical?
By identical, I mean the same in the experience of the listener to these utterances."

And my answers are (3) through (5).

(3) It would depend on the listener. 

(4) The pairs unhealthy/healthy, not healthy/healthy, and nonhealthy/healthy, are pairs for which any combination of two is nonidentical, by American English convention. 

(5) The limits of your vocabulary determine whether you find some actual English words unfamiliar. 

(6) Prefixing 'non' to some words can extend your vocabulary.

I should have included a discussion of points (5) and (6) in my original write-up.

(7) To be not healthy is definitely to be nonhealthy, and maybe to be unhealthy.  To say that someone is unhealthy is to say that he is ill.  To say that someone is not healthy MIGHT be to say that he is ill, but the term "not healthy" could mean other things, in common American English usage.

(8) The meaning of the words "unhealthy" and "healthy" are not disputed, but an unusual term, like "nonhealthy", can be outside a hearer's vocabulary, and, so, disputable.

I hope statements (4) and (7) answer your questions about differences between usage of the terms  "healthy", "nonhealthy" and "not healthy".

If I were to write an article version of my discussion, I would include references, an abstract, and some information on the cultural standards that let English speakers use affixes with common words.  I would also index much less of the article content than I would index in my post content.

(9) "You've really got some poor premises in here."

Thank you for your partial feedback on my premises.  I will welcome your full analysis of the arguments whose premises you find poor.  You are free to standardize, and then post to me, those arguments of mine whose premises you find poor.  Your full analysis could help me write my article.

(10) "Where, specifically, in the world of experience ... would this stuff prove useful?"

(11) Given that you appreciate a difference between acceptable, poor, and nonacceptable premises, you could elucidate, for me, any differences you find between my nonacceptable premises (my not acceptable premises), and my  poor premises. 

I hope to read a product of your performing action (11).

-nj

ps: Be advised that you need a good understanding of informal logic to perform action (11).  You might need to take a college class before you perform action (11). Maybe all you need is a library! Look on the shelves for a logic textbook that has answers in the back.


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Correct application of categorical logic does not cause misuse of the either/or distinction.31/10/2003 00:59:20nj
     Re:Correct application of categorical logic does not cause misuse of the either/or distinction.31/10/2003 01:22:14Derrick Hill
          Re:Re:Correct application of categorical logic does not cause misuse of the either/or distinction.31/10/2003 20:38:54nj
               Re:Re:Re:Correct application of categorical logic does not cause misuse of the either/or distinction.01/11/2003 03:08:58Derrick
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Correct application of categorical logic does not cause misuse of the either/or distinction.01/11/2003 04:30:17nj
     Re:Correct application of categorical logic does not cause misuse of the either/or distinction.01/11/2003 04:13:09nj
          Re:Re:Correct application of categorical logic does not cause misuse of the either/or distinction.01/11/2003 11:07:36Rolls Anotherone
               Re:Re:Re:Correct application of categorical logic does not cause misuse of the either/or distinction.01/11/2003 11:29:30Pete West
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Correct application of categorical logic does not cause misuse of the either/or distinction.01/11/2003 12:13:23Rolls Anotherone
               Re:Re:Re:Correct application of categorical logic does not cause misuse of the either/or distinction.01/11/2003 22:34:25nj
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Correct application of categorical logic does not cause misuse of the either/or distinction.01/11/2003 23:30:01Pete West
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Correct application of categorical logic does not cause misuse of the either/or distinction.01/11/2003 23:42:31nj
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Correct application of categorical logic does not cause misuse of the either/or distinction.01/11/2003 23:48:14Pete West
               Re:Re:Re:Correct application of categorical logic does not cause misuse of the either/or distinction.01/11/2003 22:43:10nj
          Re:Re:Correct application of categorical logic does not cause misuse of the either/or distinction.01/11/2003 12:49:48Jon Edwards
               Re:Re:Re:Correct application of categorical logic does not cause misuse of the either/or distinction.01/11/2003 23:17:21nj
          Categorical Logic & Either/Or. Topic: Epistemology.03/11/2003 08:26:05nj
               Re:Categorical Logic & Either/Or. Topic: Epistemology.05/11/2003 04:24:36Todd
                    Re:Re:Categorical Logic & Either/Or. Topic: Epistemology.06/11/2003 22:21:29nj
                         Re:Re:Re:Categorical Logic & Either/Or. Topic: Epistemology.07/11/2003 05:11:33Todd
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Categorical Logic & Either/Or. Topic: Epistemology.07/11/2003 22:10:10nj
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Categorical Logic & Either/Or. Topic: Epistemology.08/11/2003 02:49:02Todd
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Categorical Logic & Either/Or. Topic: Epistemology.08/11/2003 06:56:57nj
               Re:Categorical Logic & Either/Or. Topic: Epistemology.05/11/2003 05:04:28Todd
                    Re:Re:Categorical Logic & Either/Or. Topic: Epistemology.06/11/2003 21:16:11nj
                         Re:Re:Re:Categorical Logic & Either/Or. Topic: Epistemology.06/11/2003 22:14:49Todd
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Categorical Logic & Either/Or. Topic: Epistemology.06/11/2003 23:10:59nj

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