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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dobson's Subjective Reversal
Posted by: John Grinder
Date/Time: 04/10/2002 02:02:06

Harlan

Now you're scaring me, Harlan.

You write,

"Yes, that would be the standard definition of collapsing anchors.  I have seen Dobson do this in trance however with no apparent use of anchors (except tonal)."

Except tonal - what do you think anchors are if they don't include tonal marking (especially in hypnotic contexts where the client's eyes are typically closed and touching requires lots of framing)?

Yes, Bandler and I had this patterning going by '75 - years before meeting Dobson - indeed, before meeting Erickson. It was designed by the two of us based on some hints in Satir's work and tons of trial and error work.

Harlan, I would appreciate an answer to my last question - did you put a posting by me from this website on eBay?

John  


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Dobson's Subjective Reversal27/09/2002 23:53:21Harlan Kilstein
     Re:Dobson's Subjective Reversal28/09/2002 03:35:38John Grinder
          Re:Re:Dobson's Subjective Reversal03/10/2002 21:37:20Harlan D. Kilstein Ed.D.
               Re:Re:Re:Dobson's Subjective Reversal03/10/2002 22:54:51John Grinder
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Dobson's Subjective Reversal03/10/2002 23:49:48Harlan D. Kilstein Ed.D.
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dobson's Subjective Reversal04/10/2002 02:02:06John Grinder
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dobson's Subjective Reversal04/10/2002 06:26:47Harlan Kilstein
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dobson's Subjective Reversal04/10/2002 19:43:23John Grinder
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dobson's Subjective Reversal04/10/2002 21:43:49Ulic
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dobson's Subjective Reversal04/10/2002 22:42:32Anthony
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dobson's Subjective Reversal04/10/2002 22:51:29Jim R
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dobson's Subjective Reversal05/10/2002 00:44:48Ulic
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dobson's Subjective Reversal07/10/2002 23:33:27Harlan D. Kilstein Ed.D.
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dobson's Subjective Reversal08/10/2002 00:18:17John Grinder
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dobson's Subjective Reversal08/10/2002 04:18:22Harlan Kilstein
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dobson's Subjective Reversal09/10/2002 05:23:55John Grinder
                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dobson's Subjective Reversal09/10/2002 16:16:43Ulic
                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dobson's Subjective Reversal10/10/2002 10:19:30Anon
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dobson's Subjective Reversal08/10/2002 16:56:38Ulic
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dobson's Subjective Reversal08/10/2002 17:27:30Harlan D. Kilstein Ed.D.
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Dobson's Subjective Reversal08/10/2002 23:25:53Web Master
                                                            Physiology of Excellence04/11/2002 22:56:40Robert S
     Re:Dobson's Subjective Reversal09/10/2002 13:28:27madhatter
          Re:Re:Dobson's Subjective Reversal09/10/2002 16:30:27Harlan D. Kilstein Ed.D.
               Re:Re:Re:Dobson's Subjective Reversal11/10/2002 02:46:12MadHatter
               Re:Re:Re:Dobson's Subjective Reversal11/10/2002 03:00:51MadHatter

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