Robert You write, "...found that the patterning of unconsious uptake into consious explicit material are tedious." Not necessarily, read the discovery of 6 Step Reframing. In general, I have noticed that the process is tedious if the modeler consciously attempts to rush to unconscious's work. Note the description I offered in the description of how Bandler and I modeled Erickson as an explicit example. If this not-rushing the unconscious rule is observed, then the ease (or lack of it) which accompanies the presentation of the information by the unconscious is often an excellent measure of the rapport between conscious and unconscious process. and as one maps from tacit knowledge to an explicit representation, this process is in no way tedious - it is a very excitng and enjoyable adventure. John