Hello John, Carmen, no other NLP book raised so many questions in me as did Whispering. Well, I find it superb. My first question would be about modeling. Let us consider the unconscious uptake phase, which distincts modeling as in NLP from any other modeling. Unfortunately I haven't got the book near me just now, so I'll rely upon my memory. Two times within the description of this phase you make a remark that the genius modeled could be either an individual or a team. As for individual, things are more or less clear. But modeling a team... how specifically? For example, take a highly successful team of, say, 5 people. In many cases the interaction between team members is so tight that we cannot just dissect their work into roles they would play. Soccer game would suffice as an adequate example, where really good players are not just defenders or half-back but they participate actively in the whole game. In other words, their roles overlap. How should one model that? Should one take assign one modeler pro one team member, so 5 modelers, and each of them would unconsciously uptake patterning from their party? Or should every modeler uptake patterning from every team member? There isn't any serious methodological problem when you discover such patterning from the 3rd position explicitly but if we accept your proposal that explicit coding should occur only after unconscious uptake is finished we just cannot move to the 3rd position in this phase, can we? By the way, in the description, how should one attest that he's OK with unconscious uptake you mention some clients. I think the description should be refined because in many activities there's just no clients involved. Who would be the client if we modeled a tennis player? One more point. If we are willing to model some specific activity that requires a thorough background in its field? Maybe some engineering activity, for example, bridge construction (that would naturally be rather content model than a process one. I know that also in this field well-known things such as creativity, decision-making, etc. are most of all involved but here we turn to specific issues). Should modeler educate oneself in this field before unconscious uptake or not? And what's your attitude towards such content models? Do you propose not to deal with 'em at all in the field of NLP? From my point of view, some more cautions should be given in the description of modeling phases regarding this issue.