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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Unconscious involuntary signals
Posted by: John Grinder
Date/Time: 10/03/2003 23:32:22

Hi Gene, hi Lewis

Sure Gene, I selected pain for the simple reason that it is the most elegant example as the pain is by definition, involuntary - a required characteristic of the signal systems.

So the example from Lewis works nicely (thanks as always, Lewis). Nearly any experience where the conscious mind wants X and when the person involved goes to acutally do X, they are blocked, incongruent, experience resistance - in other words, there are distinct kinesthetic sensations (typically labeled resistance by therapists when it is a response to something they have asked the client to do). Clearly, these are invitations from the unconscious and are usefully responded to as the opening of a dialogue to come to some mutually respectful agreement - typically, the negotiation moves to the level of intention and then the selection of a new way of achieving the original objective.

All the best,


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Unconscious involuntary signals06/03/2003 22:33:52Gene Bryson
     Re:Unconscious involuntary signals07/03/2003 04:55:21John Grinder
          Re:Re:Unconscious involuntary signals07/03/2003 23:30:06Raśl Platas
               Re:Re:Re:Unconscious involuntary signals08/03/2003 15:40:30John Grinder
          Re:Re:Unconscious involuntary signals10/03/2003 20:50:15Gene Bryson
               Re:Re:Re:Unconscious involuntary signals10/03/2003 21:51:35Lewis Walker
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Unconscious involuntary signals10/03/2003 23:32:22John Grinder
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Unconscious involuntary signals10/03/2003 23:32:27John Grinder
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Unconscious involuntary signals11/03/2003 15:38:55Gene Bryson

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