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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:history and future history: Wittgenstein as influence -
Posted by: Michae Greinecker
Date/Time: 25/03/2003 20:34:13

I guess when you wrote that "Chomsky's revolution was based deeply on challenging the strictures insisted upon what constituted legitimate science by the Vienna Circle and their followers.", you meant his opposition to the then prevalent orthodoxy of behaviorism (sorry, I havenīt read Whispering yet). Correct me if Iīm wrong on that, please.

While some members of the Vienna circle believed in strict behaviorism this stems partly from ignorance and a believe that behaviorism would be the way out of the strange metaphysics of Freudian theory.

I donīt see any fundamental problem with creating mentalistic theories in the framework(s) od science created by the Vienna circle, although it was everything but a homogenous group.

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Regarding Wittgenstein I think the biggest problem is the "genius cult" around him. Wittgenstein was extremely arrogant and often dismissed other views pretty fast. "Because he is a genius", his followers tend to ignore the possibility that Wittgensten was wrong which leads to the Rohrschach test youīve described.

Btw: I think the Rohrschach test metaphor is very powerful in understanding lot of discussions.





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history and future history: Wittgenstein as influence - 14/03/2003 00:04:19Thomas
     Re:history and future history: Wittgenstein as influence - 14/03/2003 12:33:01Tony
          Re:Re:history and future history: Wittgenstein as influence - 14/03/2003 17:24:44John Schertzer
               Re:Re:Re:history and future history: Wittgenstein as influence - 15/03/2003 17:27:58John Grinder and Carmen Bostic St. Clair
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:history and future history: Wittgenstein as influence - 24/03/2003 08:36:35Michael Greinecker
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:history and future history: Wittgenstein as influence - 24/03/2003 10:06:29John Grinder
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:history and future history: Wittgenstein as influence - 24/03/2003 14:23:45John Schertzer
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:history and future history: Wittgenstein as influence - 24/03/2003 21:04:10John Grinder
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:history and future history: Wittgenstein as influence - 25/03/2003 20:34:13Michae Greinecker
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:history and future history: Wittgenstein as influence - 26/03/2003 14:59:04John Schertzer
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:history and future history: Wittgenstein as influence - 29/03/2003 21:31:24nj
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:history and future history: Wittgenstein as influence - 29/03/2003 21:58:47John Grinder
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:history and future history: Wittgenstein as influence - 31/03/2003 15:24:30Michael Greinecker
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:history and future history: Wittgenstein as influence - 03/04/2003 14:24:36John Grinder
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:history and future history: Wittgenstein as influence - 03/04/2003 20:38:29Michael Greinecker
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:history and future history: Wittgenstein as influence - 01/04/2003 21:24:29John Schertzer
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:history and future history: Wittgenstein as influence - 03/04/2003 15:43:39John Grinder
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:history and future history: Wittgenstein as influence - 03/04/2003 21:52:25John Schertzer
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:history and future history: Wittgenstein as influence - 08/04/2003 22:59:08nj

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