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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:PATTERN HUNTER - LONDON 08/04
Posted by: robert
Date/Time: 10/04/2003 08:34:14

"You can play all the Meta Model games you want - it won't accomplish anything."

you sure?

"Read the review of WITW in Anchor Point.  Even one of John's former top students writes that John's (and Carmen's) writings have become almost unintelligible."

Then they do not understand what they write and do with that writing.

I think it is clear for me that the book by John and Carmen is a clear and precis understanding of what was NLP in the begining.
I am a sucker for old myths and I would love a book or chapter of anecdots from Johns and Richards adventures from themself.

People judge, ie use a filter of what is to be and not judge what they do respond to.
They use a cloudness filter of not knowing what they do respond to.
They in this is people who do not seem to calibrate there own judgemental and how they have filters about the training when they enter the training.

It is fairly obvious that few enter John and carmens training with a modeling approach.

"The sample paragraph that Steve Andreas re-wrote is a prime example."

Personally I think Steve is out of base (scope)with his article in many ways. It does not reflect my understanding of NLP and or John and Carmens book.

He might still be right tho.

God speed.


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     Re:PATTERN HUNTER - LONDON 08/0409/04/2003 11:39:04richard
          Re:Re:PATTERN HUNTER - LONDON 08/0409/04/2003 16:32:31Ryan Nagy
               Re:Re:Re:PATTERN HUNTER - LONDON 08/0409/04/2003 17:40:11Richard
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:PATTERN HUNTER - LONDON 08/0409/04/2003 18:34:15Robin Manuell
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:PATTERN HUNTER - LONDON 08/0422/04/2003 01:15:26Pär
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:PATTERN HUNTER - LONDON 08/0409/04/2003 20:00:34Jim R
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                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:PATTERN HUNTER - LONDON 08/0409/04/2003 22:24:52Richard
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:PATTERN HUNTER - LONDON 08/0409/04/2003 22:49:31the count
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:PATTERN HUNTER - LONDON 08/0409/04/2003 23:30:09Richard
                                        ReReRe:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:PATTERN HUNTER - LONDON 08/0411/04/2003 10:49:13ernest
                              Re:do your research first (richard)16/04/2003 04:14:43Zhi Zhi Chien
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:PATTERN HUNTER - LONDON 08/0409/04/2003 23:36:53Ryan Nagy
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:PATTERN HUNTER - LONDON 08/0409/04/2003 23:59:17Richard
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:PATTERN HUNTER - LONDON 08/0410/04/2003 08:43:55Peter West
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:PATTERN HUNTER - LONDON 08/0410/04/2003 12:26:17richard
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:PATTERN HUNTER - LONDON 08/0410/04/2003 00:03:38Richard
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:PATTERN HUNTER - LONDON 08/0414/04/2003 11:18:31Robert
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:PATTERN HUNTER - LONDON 08/0414/04/2003 11:43:52Robin Manuell
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:PATTERN HUNTER - LONDON 08/0414/04/2003 14:56:28the count
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:PATTERN HUNTER - LONDON 08/0414/04/2003 20:11:27Richard
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:PATTERN HUNTER - LONDON 08/0414/04/2003 21:27:47Robert
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:PATTERN HUNTER - LONDON 08/0410/04/2003 08:34:14robert
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:PATTERN HUNTER - LONDON 08/0410/04/2003 08:34:56robert
          Re:Re:PATTERN HUNTER - LONDON 08/0411/04/2003 03:49:38Stephen
     Re:PATTERN HUNTER - LONDON 08/04 - counter-example10/04/2003 00:05:20Jon Edwards
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          Re:Re:PATTERN HUNTER - LONDON 08/0410/04/2003 21:31:26Thomas
               Re:Re:Re:PATTERN HUNTER - LONDON 08/0411/04/2003 11:44:49Ed
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