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Topic: Re:Beliefs compared to Know Nothing State
Posted by: JPG
Date/Time: 02/11/2003 12:20:30

Hi all,

“Know nothing state” is a nominalization for being 100% here and now.

Let see why it can be useful for learning or living

Imagine that during a championship at a previously unknown golf course, you have played tree times in a row a 4 iron on a par tree.

Have you learn that you must hit a 4 iron every time on this hole ? On Sunday afternoon, will you bring your simplified model of the world at the tee of this par tree, or will you be 100% here and now ready to choose the best club ?

Know nothing state means that you are “ideally” 100% free to react to the context and yourself, not to what has happened yesterday or to what you have planned before. It doesn’t mean that you should not be prepared but that you don’t limit your awareness within simplified models or expectations.

Of course, you can argue that nobody build that kind of trivial models.

Well, Ok, but a model is always a simplification of the world, which means it doesn’t include all variables. It depends on your history.

Let say that your model for choosing the best club includes:
The distance to the pin,
The wind
The temperature,
The humidity

It is still missing many variables. You can have an array of 100 or 1000 parameters; it will always lack one that can be determinant now.

Projecting models or expectations delete data that can be relevant to learning, living or surviving. If you have planned to go to the casino on a sinking Titanic, you’d better change your mind right now. Aren’t you ?

Let take a learning example, assume that you think that there is a flaw in your swing and it is related to your stance. You go practice, and start working and your stance, well on your STANCE, you can learn a lot on your stance but how much awareness do you put on your grip, posture, plan, rhythm …???

Expectations, models, maps limit our awareness. May be you will learn a lot about your stance but your learning will stay within your old model of the world. You can learn within your old model but can’t learned or discover anything really new. You stay in the same paradigm.

If you need references outside from NLP, in case you have already built feed forward expectations about NLP, T. Gallway, Zen, martial arts, oriental philosophy, Castaneda all claim the same philosophy : “be 100% there now”, call it “know nothing state” or whatever you want.

Just try, even if 100% is an idealization difficult to reach: it gives the direction.

I hope that my comments could be of help.

PS: 1) of course “know nothing state” does not only apply to golf.
       2) There are other ways of (low level) learning : Get a guru like Leadbetter, he can teach most of us to play better golf but you won't much learn to learn that way.

JPG


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Beliefs compared to Know Nothing State23/10/2003 13:26:39GSM
     Re:Beliefs compared to Know Nothing State23/10/2003 15:08:22Jon Edwards
          Re:Re:Beliefs compared to Know Nothing State23/10/2003 15:17:49GSM
               Re:Re:Re:Beliefs compared to Know Nothing State23/10/2003 16:41:15Jon Edwards
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Beliefs compared to Know Nothing State23/10/2003 17:15:48GSM
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Beliefs compared to Know Nothing State23/10/2003 18:33:15GSM
     Re:Beliefs compared to Know Nothing State02/11/2003 12:20:30JPG
          Re:Re:Beliefs compared to Know Nothing State02/11/2003 15:21:13GSM
          Re:Re:Beliefs compared to Know Nothing State06/11/2003 02:42:01Todd

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