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Topic: Re:Re:RE: competition vs collaboration
Posted by: JPG
Date/Time: 04/04/2004 12:06:07

Dear Michael,

I've found your demonstration both interesting (because I've learn something) and strange because I think that you've demonstrated nothing about "competition/cooperation".

You've based your demonstration on an hierarchical organisation and used its property (multiple levels) to derive a conclusion (or nor conclusion) for the "competition/cooperation".

You have showed that both can occur at every level of the organisation. Well this is idiosyncratic with the organisation structure (hierarchy) not with the couple "competition/cooperation". You can apply it to everything, for example "Blue and red office", "eat italian or chineese food". Your demonstration will work. At every level, you will find people "eating pizza"  or "drinking chineese soap" or having an office with blue or green or red.

In fact you are projecting "competition/cooperation" on a structure but your mapping is not an isomorphism so you should not conclude anything about "cooperation/competition".

"Cooperation/Competition", both  also occur outside the frame of organisation. Theses nominalisations are processes and trying to fit then into an hierarchy do not seem to lead somewhere. We can described them only IN RELATION TO A GOAL". So the right question might be "Are they at the same logical type" ?

If your goal, with a group of N guys is to have them producting more stuff then both "competition/cooperation" can be of help so it might be said that they are of the same logical type. Now, having N guys "working one by one" (something close to competition) or "trying to combine their effort and competence"  (something like cooperation) seem to be of a different logical TYPE. It depends of your definition of "competition" and "cooperation".

As you rightly outline, even in competitive contexts like sales, there is both "cooperation and competition". That also true for the Superboal, you need two finalists to make a final so they are both cooperating and competiting.

All the Best


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
RE:New Code, NLP and competition27/03/2004 19:43:23Ivan T. Popopski
     Re:RE:New Code, NLP and competition28/03/2004 08:15:07Stephen Murrish
          Re:Re:RE:New Code, NLP and competition28/03/2004 17:31:18Ryan Nagy
               Re:Re:Re:RE:New Code, NLP and competition29/03/2004 04:21:04Stephen Murrish
          ReReReRe:Re:RE:New Code, NLP and competition29/03/2004 13:45:06Ivan T Poposki
               Re:ReReReRe:Re:RE:New Code, NLP and competition30/03/2004 04:16:50Eman Seaman
                    Re:Re:ReReReRe:Re:RE:New Code, NLP and competition30/03/2004 05:50:30Keith
                         Re:Re:Re:ReReReRe:Re:RE:New Code, NLP and competition30/03/2004 11:01:55Ivan T. Popopski
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:ReReReRe:Re:RE:New Code, NLP and competition04/04/2004 18:03:44John Grinder
                         Re:Re:Re:ReReReRe:Re:RE:New Code, NLP and competition30/03/2004 18:38:31Charlie Conklin
                    Re:Re:ReReReRe:Re:RE:New Code, NLP and competition31/03/2004 09:01:59Stephen Murrish
               Re:ReReReRe:Re:RE:New Code, NLP and competition31/03/2004 08:56:48Stephen Murrish
                    Re:Re:ReReReRe:Re:RE:New Code, NLP and competition31/03/2004 13:10:16Eman Seaman
                         Re:Re:Re:ReReReRe:Re:RE:New Code, NLP and competition01/04/2004 10:41:17Stephen Murrish
     Re:RE: competition vs collaboration31/03/2004 23:15:19Michael Carroll
          Re:Re:RE: competition vs collaboration02/04/2004 04:44:04kc
               American slogans: competition vs collaboration02/04/2004 05:06:45Anthony
                    Re:American slogans: competition vs collaboration02/04/2004 08:58:54Stephen Murrish
               Re:Re:Re:RE: competition vs collaboration06/04/2004 00:32:24Michael Carroll
          Re:Re:RE: competition vs collaboration02/04/2004 09:18:36Charlie Conklin
          Re:Re:RE: competition vs collaboration04/04/2004 12:06:07JPG
               Re:Re:Re:RE: competition vs collaboration04/04/2004 23:16:09Dave Ericksen

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