Topic: | Re:Re:Re:Re:Unconscious did NOT start with Freud |
Posted by: | tish |
Date/Time: | 09/07/2004 06:30:31 |
I hear you and understand your point, I think, but i wouldn't say there is no such thing as an unconscious mind. Sure, as a thing you could put in a box it simply doesn't exist. Good ideas are based on good perceptions and not all perceptions are sensory based. I think your comments are important and point to a significant distinction- that our 'knowledge' is not simply the uncovering of what exists 'out there', but is a function also of our creativity, needs, purposes and such. I believe that frued did his best to describe the dynamics of something very real. We musn't get caught in dogma or other traps of language, but i think we should be careful of treating all non sensory specific ideas as refering to non-existant 'things'. I understand that NLP tends to take a very utilitarian stance towards knowledge and I don't wish to argue that epistemological point. Simply to say that even though an idea like the unconscious is co-created and exists within an historical/social/personal/linguistic/purposeful context, there still could be a phenomena that is being described that exists independt of the description. I'm not taking the realist position as much as it sounds, just reacting to the utilitarian stance I tasted in your comments. I hope I have also made it clear that, yes, I do agree that Freud's 'discovery' was as much an act of creation as that of perception. He made a new map of something that deserves to be mapped from many perspectives. tish |