John and everyone, Thanks for the feedback. At first, I thought I'd reply with some thoughts on trance-identification, but a second read through of your response convinced me that I may not even understand the difference between academic modelng and NLP modeling. 1. In this case, I'm confused as to the difference between classic code, new code and academic modeling. Is the difference between academic and classic modeling an unconscious component, or a communication between conscious and unconscious processes? Does it require trance-identification? Also, what are the differences in regards to results between the three? If I can understand this, I’d be willing to offer another report. 2. Yes, I didn't mention this. I've verified that there was a skill transfer here. I’ve development of several ideas in different areas with his strategy that meet my requirements for successful application. It’s a strategy that has caused me to remove extraneous behavior rather than add actions. The one decision it helped me take (a business decision) is one I wouldn’t have otherwise made, and one that I am happy with. 3. I suppose that the discomfort here may have been due to a physical pacing of the model at the breathing level, which should have been avoided. 4. You mention that it was an aborted attempt, but since I got the result without full suspension of filters, were there more results that I missed out on? I would divide the results I got into two categories: a. Academic modeling, using strategies and submodalities. This was what got me from watching an example to behavioral acquisition. b. Unconscious processes: identification of the behaviors to be acquired, choice of an appropriate model, and identification of other behaviors in the model that would be worth having. Does this make sense? Eric