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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mind's eye
Posted by: Tony
Date/Time: 26/07/2003 15:26:29

John Grinder

You wrote,"You know by doing that you learned something of value (which is Whispering,Carmen and I agree are the sole criterion - can you replicate the actions of the model does in p-a-r-r-a-l-e-l context?)

Then you go on with brilliantly, "It is only subsequent to satisfying the criterion that we switch the meaning making process back on and begin the ardous task of coding the pattern to make them transferable."

John your instructions above are a little tricky for me and let me explain how. In order for me to put a model on I need to have some personal criterion to do the task. So then I try on their actions (say public speaking). So I go in front of the room and I become my model. Then I watch the source again do their same presentation. I must say this revisit with my model allows my unconscious to re-teach me how to refine my original presenting model.

John are you implying meaning making is a conscious distinction saved for reflecting on what I did after my first modeling presentation to find new distinctions that I did not know existed until after I performed? Or is reserved only for how I actually did replicate the model or not and for adjustment purposes to get my desired result?

BTW John is meaning making truly a necessary conponent if I am getting results without reflecting(attaching meaning)?

BTW I do agree focusing on getting the same responses as the model is paramount. Thanks

You then write, If you are referring by the phrase "your observations" to the demonstration of the pattern than the criterion mentioned above is as mentioned above the replication of the models behavior. John can I politely expand what you are explaing here so I can appreciate your explanation more. Are you saying the more the modeler can comtinue to work on on duplicating and replicating and replicate the source/model the finer and more accurate the results become?

good day

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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Mind's eye17/07/2003 12:00:04Troy
     ReReRe:Mind's eye17/07/2003 13:37:44Tony
     Re:Mind's eye18/07/2003 09:00:56troy
          Re:Re:Mind's eye18/07/2003 09:41:19Michael Worthington
     Re:Mind's eye18/07/2003 10:19:09Robert Ballentine
          Re:Re:Mind's eye18/07/2003 12:07:08Avid Golfer
               Re:Re:Re:Mind's eye18/07/2003 14:48:53Robert Ballentine
          Re:Re:Mind's eye18/07/2003 12:26:26Tony
               Re:Re:Re:Mind's eye19/07/2003 10:14:40John Grinder
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Mind's eye19/07/2003 18:38:44Golf Swing Modeler
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Mind's eye20/07/2003 16:17:05Tony
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mind's eye21/07/2003 14:00:46John Grinder
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mind's eye21/07/2003 14:16:13Tony
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mind's eye25/07/2003 02:59:48Tony
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mind's eye25/07/2003 12:44:27John Grinder
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mind's eye26/07/2003 15:26:29Tony
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mind's eye27/07/2003 14:18:59John Grinder
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mind's eye27/07/2003 15:39:32Sean
                                                       ReRe:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Mind's eye28/07/2003 23:06:14Sean

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