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Topic: Re:A Simple Question?
Posted by: Ken
Date/Time: 30/09/2003 19:41:51

It might help to clarify the meaning of "metaphorical". It's a common misconception to view metaphor as the analogy end of a continuum with "literal" on the other end. Like this:

Literal------------------------------------Analogical/Metaphorical

But metaphor is not more analogical than literal language, because all concepts are completely analogical--that is, they are based on positive analogies (sameness) and negative analogies (difference).

If I say "dog" what I am refering to is both the commoness of experience between all the experiences I have ever labeled dog, as well as the differences between those experiences and the experiences I have labeled "cat" or "goose" or "christmas pudding"

Since this is true of all language, the distinction between metaphor and literal language is not that one is "merely" analogical, but that what we call "literal" is more permanent--we have invested more energy in noticing the samenesses and differences because we use the concept on a regular basis.

Literal/More Permanent Analogies-----------------Metaphor/More Temporary Analogies

That is why, for example, many scientific concepts, such as light "waves" were originally advanced as metaphor, but over time came to be treated as literal. They had been useful enough analogies to become a regular part of the scientific vocabulary. They are no less analogical, only more permanent. Scientists have tried to circumvent the confusion about analogy by calling these concepts "models" but they are really no different than any other concept, since much of everyday language began as metaphor (temporary classification) and only became literal with time and usage.

So, is all content metaphor? No. Some is and some isn't. Is all content analogy? Yes, because all concepts are analogical.

All structure, or at least all work with structure is also analogical, since it is based on analogies between multiple experiences. You recognize "anchoring" for example because you draw an analogy between this case of anchoring and others you have labeled the same way.

I hope this helps some,

Ken


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A Simple Question?30/09/2003 03:18:42InnerCalm
     Re:A Simple Question?30/09/2003 07:24:29Stephen Bray
          Re:Re:A Simple Question?30/09/2003 18:25:57InnerCalm
     Re: A Simple Question?30/09/2003 17:39:02Ryan Nagy
     Re:A Simple Question?30/09/2003 19:41:51Ken
          Re:Re:A Simple Question?01/10/2003 02:56:17J Rose
               Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?01/10/2003 06:10:31InnerCalm
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?01/10/2003 13:00:23Debby Hitchens
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?01/10/2003 17:04:51InnerCalm
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?01/10/2003 21:09:28Jim r
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?02/10/2003 01:00:16InnerCalm
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?02/10/2003 01:54:33Deb
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?02/10/2003 02:16:38InnerCalm
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?02/10/2003 03:29:37Jim R
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?02/10/2003 06:08:44InnerCalm
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?02/10/2003 14:34:44Jim R
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?03/10/2003 00:28:57InnerCalm
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?03/10/2003 04:25:02Jim R
                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?05/10/2003 00:08:04Martin Messier
                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?05/10/2003 03:05:44InnerCalm
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?06/10/2003 18:48:09Todd Sloane
                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?06/10/2003 19:27:59InnerCalm
                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?07/10/2003 04:04:41Todd Sloane
                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?07/10/2003 21:57:15Fabiano Lazlo
                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?07/10/2003 06:46:05Jim R
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?02/10/2003 02:57:13Ryan Nagy
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?02/10/2003 06:10:44InnerCalm
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?02/10/2003 06:14:27InnerCalm
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?02/10/2003 12:10:03Stephen Bray
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?03/10/2003 04:11:47InnerCalm
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?03/10/2003 08:22:42Stephen Bray
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?03/10/2003 18:48:17InnerCalm
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?04/10/2003 06:56:46Stephen Bray
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?05/10/2003 03:20:50InnerCalm
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?03/10/2003 20:13:38Ryan Nagy
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?04/10/2003 05:20:47InnerCalm
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?04/10/2003 16:40:38Ryan Nagy
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?03/10/2003 16:10:20John Schertzer
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?03/10/2003 20:24:15Ryan Nagy
               Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?02/10/2003 02:59:03Pete West
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?02/10/2003 12:47:41J Rose
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?02/10/2003 18:27:58J Rose
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?03/10/2003 00:11:42InnerCalm
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?04/10/2003 16:44:53Ryan Nagy
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?04/10/2003 18:39:35InnerCalm
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?05/10/2003 04:19:10Ryan Nagy
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?05/10/2003 05:04:06InnerCalm
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?05/10/2003 05:27:26Ryan

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