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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?
Posted by: Martin Messier
Date/Time: 05/10/2003 00:08:04

Hi InnerCalm and Jim R.,

Great discussion, thanks to both of you.

InnerCalm, you wrote: "I see it this way, you may be seeking abosolute truth and not believe you have yet found it, which implies the presupposition, and continue searching for the abosolute truth.....Until you find it, or as you say "achieve Samahdi", which is The One truth you are seeking; However, by doing so, you are denying all other truths or possibilities, and thereby denying the presuppositon, that their are no absolute truths, only new information."

Samadhi is non-dual truth, it is the truth out of which all truths unfold. Therefore, it is all-embracing, all-acknowledging, all-encompassing. Zen and other non-dual schools offer practices to lead you there.

When speaking of science, the most useful point of view I've found is the one proposed by Ken Wilber in "The Marriage of Sense and Soul." Ken proposes that science consists of an injunction, or a set of instructions, which when followed will yield a result. Those who wish to take up the injunction can achieve the results and comment on their experience. Those who do not have no basis for discussing the matter whatsoever.

That is to say, a physicist cannot argue with a zen monk about the inner phenomena of meditation without meditating every day for 7 years. He has not taken up the injunction and thus does not qualify for an educated opinion.

BTW, Jim R., can you please email me the practice to which you referred in your previous post? I'm interested.

Rock on!


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
A Simple Question?30/09/2003 03:18:42InnerCalm
     Re:A Simple Question?30/09/2003 07:24:29Stephen Bray
          Re:Re:A Simple Question?30/09/2003 18:25:57InnerCalm
     Re: A Simple Question?30/09/2003 17:39:02Ryan Nagy
     Re:A Simple Question?30/09/2003 19:41:51Ken
          Re:Re:A Simple Question?01/10/2003 02:56:17J Rose
               Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?01/10/2003 06:10:31InnerCalm
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?01/10/2003 13:00:23Debby Hitchens
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?01/10/2003 17:04:51InnerCalm
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?01/10/2003 21:09:28Jim r
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?02/10/2003 01:00:16InnerCalm
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?02/10/2003 01:54:33Deb
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?02/10/2003 02:16:38InnerCalm
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?02/10/2003 03:29:37Jim R
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?02/10/2003 06:08:44InnerCalm
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?02/10/2003 14:34:44Jim R
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?03/10/2003 00:28:57InnerCalm
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?03/10/2003 04:25:02Jim R
                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?05/10/2003 00:08:04Martin Messier
                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?05/10/2003 03:05:44InnerCalm
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?06/10/2003 18:48:09Todd Sloane
                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?06/10/2003 19:27:59InnerCalm
                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?07/10/2003 04:04:41Todd Sloane
                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?07/10/2003 21:57:15Fabiano Lazlo
                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?07/10/2003 06:46:05Jim R
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?02/10/2003 02:57:13Ryan Nagy
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?02/10/2003 06:10:44InnerCalm
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?02/10/2003 06:14:27InnerCalm
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?02/10/2003 12:10:03Stephen Bray
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?03/10/2003 04:11:47InnerCalm
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?03/10/2003 08:22:42Stephen Bray
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?03/10/2003 18:48:17InnerCalm
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?04/10/2003 06:56:46Stephen Bray
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?05/10/2003 03:20:50InnerCalm
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?03/10/2003 20:13:38Ryan Nagy
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?04/10/2003 05:20:47InnerCalm
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?04/10/2003 16:40:38Ryan Nagy
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?03/10/2003 16:10:20John Schertzer
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?03/10/2003 20:24:15Ryan Nagy
               Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?02/10/2003 02:59:03Pete West
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?02/10/2003 12:47:41J Rose
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?02/10/2003 18:27:58J Rose
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?03/10/2003 00:11:42InnerCalm
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?04/10/2003 16:44:53Ryan Nagy
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?04/10/2003 18:39:35InnerCalm
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?05/10/2003 04:19:10Ryan Nagy
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?05/10/2003 05:04:06InnerCalm
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?05/10/2003 05:27:26Ryan

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