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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Stopping the world and know-nothing state
Posted by: Tom
Date/Time: 10/04/2005 22:38:29

Charlie,

You wrote:
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This indicates to me that in fact, you can sometimes:
   "... get to see what comes before 'First Attention'.."
 
Or possibly you can't because "By Definition", FA is the first experience you can attend to, in which case my experimentation would indicate that you can see what came before the 'First Attention" boundary in some other context, or some at other time... i.e. the boundary is fluid.

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Now, the point I think John was making, and that I understand you yourself to have made to some degree, is that First Access is... *First* Access... and further that our first access to events in the world out there is necessarily different... an unknown systematic distortion... of events occuring at the periphery, the sense organ... and that it is NOT possible to experience the world without some nervous distortion.

How close you can get to the world 'out there' is an interesting question.... yes, First Access is a moving target (alternatively, a nominalisation).

By the way... first access, not first attention.  "First attention" roughly equates to "conscious mind".

cheers,
t


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
Stopping the world and know-nothing state07/04/2005 12:19:42JPG
     Re:Stopping the world and know-nothing state07/04/2005 13:46:39A
     Re:Stopping the world and know-nothing state07/04/2005 17:14:21Eric Robbie
          Re:Re:Stopping the world and know-nothing state09/04/2005 14:11:32JPG
     Re:Stopping the world and know-nothing state08/04/2005 12:06:48John Grinder
          Re:Re:Stopping the world and know-nothing state08/04/2005 18:44:42Eric Robbie
               Re:Re:Re:Stopping the world and know-nothing state09/04/2005 08:47:24John Grinder
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Stopping the world and know-nothing state10/04/2005 10:43:00Charlie Conklin
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Stopping the world and know-nothing state10/04/2005 13:36:05JPG
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Stopping the world and know-nothing state11/04/2005 21:05:40Charlie Conklin
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Stopping the world and know-nothing state11/04/2005 23:03:35A
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Stopping the world and know-nothing state12/04/2005 19:01:10Charlie Conklin
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Stopping the world and know-nothing state12/04/2005 23:54:40A
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Stopping the world and know-nothing state13/04/2005 17:26:21John Grinder
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Stopping the world and know-nothing state14/04/2005 00:25:14A
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Stopping the world and know-nothing state14/04/2005 01:49:20kc
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Stopping the world and know-nothing state17/04/2005 11:36:29kc
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Stopping the world and know-nothing state14/04/2005 13:50:53A
                                   subjective experience and truth13/04/2005 08:10:27JPG
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Stopping the world and know-nothing state10/04/2005 22:38:29Tom
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Stopping the world and know-nothing state11/04/2005 20:56:36Charlie Conklin

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