Topic: | Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Stopping the world and know-nothing state |
Posted by: | Tom |
Date/Time: | 10/04/2005 22:38:29 |
Charlie, You wrote: ------------------ This indicates to me that in fact, you can sometimes: "... get to see what comes before 'First Attention'.." Or possibly you can't because "By Definition", FA is the first experience you can attend to, in which case my experimentation would indicate that you can see what came before the 'First Attention" boundary in some other context, or some at other time... i.e. the boundary is fluid. ------------------ Now, the point I think John was making, and that I understand you yourself to have made to some degree, is that First Access is... *First* Access... and further that our first access to events in the world out there is necessarily different... an unknown systematic distortion... of events occuring at the periphery, the sense organ... and that it is NOT possible to experience the world without some nervous distortion. How close you can get to the world 'out there' is an interesting question.... yes, First Access is a moving target (alternatively, a nominalisation). By the way... first access, not first attention. "First attention" roughly equates to "conscious mind". cheers, t |