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Topic: NLP-Presuppositions
Posted by: Wolfgang Karber
Date/Time: 10/06/2002 23:30:45


On p 202 you call the „so-called presuppositions of NLP“ an „odd collection of different logical levels and types“ ... „at best a pedagogical device...“ You further state that „a client/agent of change pair who congruently follows the sequence in a pattern will achieve the positive results the pattern is designed to provoke, independant of their personal beliefs.“

While I agree on all that, in my expierience they really do serve as good padagogical devices in NLP trainings to assist newcomers in a way of thinking which is useful for successfully applying NLP patterns.

For me the key-word is „congruent“. If one is acting already intuitively based on internalized adequate presuppositions, fine. But what, if not?

So how would you revise and/or reorganize them as a useful and consistant NLP-training/learning device?

Or, what way would you propose to do so?


Wolfgang Karber
Vienna, Austria

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TopicDate PostedPosted By
NLP-Presuppositions10/06/2002 23:30:45Wolfgang Karber
     Re:NLP-Presuppositions11/06/2002 17:59:51John Grinder
          Re:Re:NLP-Presuppositions12/06/2002 11:03:23Wolfgang Karber
               Re:Re:Re:NLP-Presuppositions12/06/2002 16:44:07John Grinder
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP-Presuppositions12/06/2002 22:54:20Wolfgang Karber
                         ReRe:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP-Presuppositions13/06/2002 13:58:28kc
                              Re:ReRe:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP-Presuppositions13/06/2002 16:03:23John Grinder
                                   ReRe:Re:ReRe:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP-Presuppositions13/06/2002 21:52:52kc
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP-Presuppositions14/06/2002 11:10:49Wolfgang Karber
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP-Presuppositions14/06/2002 16:10:41John Grinder
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP-Presuppositions02/03/2003 02:15:30Ernest
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP-Presuppositions02/03/2003 16:24:07John Grinder
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP-Presuppositions04/03/2003 00:46:37ernest
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP-Presuppositions04/03/2003 02:00:05John Grinder
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP-Presuppositions04/03/2003 12:42:08Ernest
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP-Presuppositions02/03/2003 02:26:27Ernest
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP-Presuppositions02/03/2003 16:30:40John Grinder
                                        ReReRe:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP-Presuppositions14/04/2003 23:27:04Ernest

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