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Topic: Re:Re:Re:NLP-Presuppositions
Posted by: John Grinder
Date/Time: 12/06/2002 16:44:07

Dear Wolfgang

What you are asking for is, in my opinion, literally impossible. As I mentioned in my last posting, presuppositions are a special breed of beliefs, and beliefs are one certain way of reducing experience through feedforward - that is, to say that you have a belief or presupposition is equivalent to saying that you have influenced the f1 and f2 transforms so that they will filter for evidence that supports and confirms those beliefs/presuppositions. This leads to self-fulfulling prophecies and all the other nonsense (note, non-sense) that accompanies the mental maps of a true believer. The antedote for all this is, of course, a know-nothing state but this is unlikely to be available in a beginning student - thus historically, beginning students have been offered the"presuppositions of NLP" to facilitate the transistion in mental maps from the typical way of thinking and acting to the new modes.

I, personally, would not care to re-work and clean up the presuppositions as this would only increase the likelihood that people will actually retain them, treating them as if they were "true". But then I do not use them in my work nor in my trainings. If you do use them, then clearly you have a task before you - good luck!

All the best,


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TopicDate PostedPosted By
NLP-Presuppositions10/06/2002 23:30:45Wolfgang Karber
     Re:NLP-Presuppositions11/06/2002 17:59:51John Grinder
          Re:Re:NLP-Presuppositions12/06/2002 11:03:23Wolfgang Karber
               Re:Re:Re:NLP-Presuppositions12/06/2002 16:44:07John Grinder
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP-Presuppositions12/06/2002 22:54:20Wolfgang Karber
                         ReRe:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP-Presuppositions13/06/2002 13:58:28kc
                              Re:ReRe:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP-Presuppositions13/06/2002 16:03:23John Grinder
                                   ReRe:Re:ReRe:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP-Presuppositions13/06/2002 21:52:52kc
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP-Presuppositions14/06/2002 11:10:49Wolfgang Karber
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP-Presuppositions14/06/2002 16:10:41John Grinder
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP-Presuppositions02/03/2003 02:15:30Ernest
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP-Presuppositions02/03/2003 16:24:07John Grinder
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP-Presuppositions04/03/2003 00:46:37ernest
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP-Presuppositions04/03/2003 02:00:05John Grinder
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP-Presuppositions04/03/2003 12:42:08Ernest
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP-Presuppositions02/03/2003 02:26:27Ernest
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP-Presuppositions02/03/2003 16:30:40John Grinder
                                        ReReRe:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP-Presuppositions14/04/2003 23:27:04Ernest

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