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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching
Posted by: John Schertzer
Date/Time: 23/04/2003 15:38:20

Robin,
Ms. Duncan's quote is a prime example of what I'm talking about, and I would say her work involved much explicit mapping, if you consider rep systems outside auditory digital as modalities through which explicit mapping can be achieved, in her case kino/visual with associative links to auditory-tonal.  The whole of one's neurology is the place of mapping, and while I believe the categories f1, f2 and fa are useful analytical tools at times, I don't believe in their "thingness" and that there is ever an "escape" from f2 to f1, only qualitative shifts within one's experience, let's say a slowing or quickening within f2 perhaps.  Even good writing aims at disrupting f2 filters and plays with associative links to other modes, working in mainly tacit ways -- but by tacit I mean unconscious, rather than nonverbal.  Though my primary reputation is as a poet, I have experimented in many forms and consider each a mapping enterprise of sorts.  I think our differences of opinion rest only on our difference of definition.  I wonder whether you'd consider the possibility that all of the applications of NLP as possible artistic tools as well as coaching and therapeutic ones.  I am only trying to make this point because I believe that the creation of *experience* is in itself a worthy pursuit, aside from therapy and coaching.

Don't you agree?

best,
JS


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NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching16/04/2003 14:30:52John Schertzer
     Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching16/04/2003 17:01:13John Grinder
          Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching16/04/2003 17:44:07John Schertzer
               Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching16/04/2003 20:03:36Zhi Zhi Chien
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching16/04/2003 20:37:22John Schertzer
               Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching22/04/2003 14:23:27John Schertzer
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching22/04/2003 18:36:29Robert
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching23/04/2003 14:25:34John Schertzer
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching23/04/2003 15:07:13Robert
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching23/04/2003 18:12:16John Schertzer
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching23/04/2003 11:42:55Robin Manuell
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching23/04/2003 15:38:20John Schertzer
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching23/04/2003 16:58:05Robin Manuell
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching23/04/2003 17:30:32John Schertzer
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching24/04/2003 06:34:32John Grinder
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