Sean You are asking questions that in my opinion are essential and of great utily. 1.You wrote, " But John I have not observed the consequences of my shift in kinesthethics yet I am receiving many positive responses externally. Would that be my lead towards more advanced consequences? How would I know?" Let's take a as a given that if the patterns that you are pursuing have a strong kinesthetic component - that is, you know by doing that you have learned something of value (which in Whispering, Carmen and I argue is the sole criterion - can you replicate the actions of the model and thereby elicit the same quality of responses from your clients that the model does in parallel contexts?). It is only subsequent to satisfying this criterion that we switch the meaning making analytic processes back on and begin the arduous task of coding the patterning in order to make them transferable. The external feedback means that from the point of view of others, you have changed your patterns (presumably in the direction of the performance of the model) - the lack of internal feedback suggest that you have some way to do to satisfy the replication criterion. However your ability to actually do it and secure as responses the same class of responses that your model gets is the key. I suggest that you focus of this aspect. 2. You wrote, "How do you know your observations have hit their mark? Would that be kinesthetically affirmed? Or depends on what is useful at the moment for you to use?" If you are referring by the phrase "your observations" to the demonstration of the pattern - that is, to your ability to reproduce the behaviors of the model than the criterion is as mentioned above the replication of the model's behavior. If this phrase refers to something else. please amplify so that I may appreciate the question. All the best, John