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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?
Posted by: John Schertzer
Date/Time: 03/10/2003 16:10:20

Ryan,
I agree with your point.  You have an amazing way with people.

"Give a man a mask and he'll tell the truth."

--Oscar Wilde

In this case I would follow Witt(gentstein)'s dictum that the definition of a term is determined by its usage.  In the case of "truth," a good generalization might be to say it has to do with the object (predicate) of a belief, either a cause-effect or equivalence.  "Truth" also has etymological associations with "faith" and "fidelity."  In NLP, if one can replicate the results of an expert, one is said to have a credible model.  You could also say that model has a "fidelity" or "truth" relationship to the original.  I don't know if the issue is whether we or not we use the term "truth" but how we choose to use it, and I propose that in using the term we associate it with congruence to map and not territory, so that a truth would be an agreement with oneself, and not the actual world, as in when I am "telling the truth," or saying what I know or believe to be true, as opposed to "lying," which is also a useful position to take, especially when challenging one's own map.
best,
JS


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     Re: A Simple Question?30/09/2003 17:39:02Ryan Nagy
     Re:A Simple Question?30/09/2003 19:41:51Ken
          Re:Re:A Simple Question?01/10/2003 02:56:17J Rose
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                    Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?01/10/2003 13:00:23Debby Hitchens
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?01/10/2003 17:04:51InnerCalm
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?01/10/2003 21:09:28Jim r
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?02/10/2003 01:00:16InnerCalm
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?02/10/2003 01:54:33Deb
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?02/10/2003 02:16:38InnerCalm
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?02/10/2003 03:29:37Jim R
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?02/10/2003 06:08:44InnerCalm
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?02/10/2003 14:34:44Jim R
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?03/10/2003 00:28:57InnerCalm
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?03/10/2003 04:25:02Jim R
                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?05/10/2003 00:08:04Martin Messier
                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?05/10/2003 03:05:44InnerCalm
                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?06/10/2003 18:48:09Todd Sloane
                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?06/10/2003 19:27:59InnerCalm
                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?07/10/2003 04:04:41Todd Sloane
                                                                                     Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?07/10/2003 21:57:15Fabiano Lazlo
                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?07/10/2003 06:46:05Jim R
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?02/10/2003 02:57:13Ryan Nagy
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?02/10/2003 06:10:44InnerCalm
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?02/10/2003 06:14:27InnerCalm
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?02/10/2003 12:10:03Stephen Bray
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?03/10/2003 04:11:47InnerCalm
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?03/10/2003 08:22:42Stephen Bray
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?03/10/2003 18:48:17InnerCalm
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?04/10/2003 06:56:46Stephen Bray
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?05/10/2003 03:20:50InnerCalm
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?03/10/2003 20:13:38Ryan Nagy
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?04/10/2003 05:20:47InnerCalm
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?04/10/2003 16:40:38Ryan Nagy
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?03/10/2003 16:10:20John Schertzer
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?03/10/2003 20:24:15Ryan Nagy
               Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?02/10/2003 02:59:03Pete West
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?02/10/2003 12:47:41J Rose
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?02/10/2003 18:27:58J Rose
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?03/10/2003 00:11:42InnerCalm
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?04/10/2003 16:44:53Ryan Nagy
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?04/10/2003 18:39:35InnerCalm
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?05/10/2003 04:19:10Ryan Nagy
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?05/10/2003 05:04:06InnerCalm
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A Simple Question?05/10/2003 05:27:26Ryan

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