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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:how to change negative anchors?
Posted by: Stephen
Date/Time: 23/05/2004 01:21:07

Hi E_lie,

I'm enjoying this discussion.

You wrote: "I wonder if he considers EMDR a little weird and not an especially good treatment technique?"

and as it happens I have discussed EMDR with him and he said

"More research of this procedure is needed but it is an interesting finding (I expected it would go the way of Silva Mind Control, EST Seminars, NLP eye movements, etc. but it hasn't yet; it has strong supporters and critics.)"

I feel enthused by your addition that "the NLP advocates that I've encountered are for the most part, to borrow Ellis' colorful description, self-misled musturbators, who "MUST have this" and "MUST have that" and then act as if they've been short changed when their wonder cure technology fails to produce the results that they demanded (as if they themselves had nothing to do with the outcome elicited).  Maybe it's due in part to their goal obsession, who knows."

This is the kind of talk which really inspires me because I just wouldn't have made that connection myself.

Here is a something I read on the website that mark provided a link for. I think it pretty much fits the answers to my questions (to myself) of "what am I really getting at here? Why did I feel the need to write that post earlier? What is it that is rumbling beneath my awareness? What are my points?"

and the quote is:

"Recognize your biases. These emotional reactions strongly influence the effectiveness you will have with specific methods. So, use your "beliefs" in certain methods to your advantage. In the long run, however, try to guard against having unfounded biases or hopes; try all kinds of methods and fairly evaluate them all. I have noticed that psychologists who have a negative attitude towards some technique, such as projective tests, hypnosis, NLP, dream analysis, etc., have more often never studied or used the technique, rather than have used the technique and found it to be ineffective. The world is filled with skeptics and naysayers. Try to be open-minded and learn for yourself. Be sure your negative views of certain self-help methods are based on facts, good research, or your own experience; avoid having opinions based on comments from someone else who is also inexperienced." 

I'm experiencing a kind of fludity and clarity of thought right now. It's like.. my thinking on this issue is more structured and more symmetrical than it was yesterday. The gaps are filled in somewhat.. Infact it's very like that gestalt idea of pragnaz.

So thank you for that, e_lie.

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TopicDate PostedPosted By
how to change negative anchors?13/05/2004 21:14:26uzik
     Re:how to change negative anchors?13/05/2004 22:48:23Venus Brown
          Re:Re:how to change negative anchors?17/05/2004 21:41:09John Schertzer
               Re:Re:Re:how to change negative anchors?18/05/2004 13:36:27mark
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:how to change negative anchors?18/05/2004 15:00:35John Schertzer
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:how to change negative anchors?18/05/2004 20:20:41mark
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:how to change negative anchors?22/05/2004 11:33:52e_lie
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:how to change negative anchors?22/05/2004 11:53:26e_lie
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:how to change negative anchors?27/05/2004 20:17:41e_lie
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:how to change negative anchors?22/05/2004 20:51:01Stephen
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:how to change negative anchors?22/05/2004 21:36:22e_lie
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:how to change negative anchors?23/05/2004 01:21:07Stephen
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:how to change negative anchors?23/05/2004 02:07:25stephen
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:how to change negative anchors?23/05/2004 10:25:12e_lie
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:how to change negative anchors?23/05/2004 11:39:43e_lie
                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:how to change negative anchors?23/05/2004 12:37:42stephen
                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:how to change negative anchors?26/05/2004 21:27:50e_lie
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:how to change negative anchors?26/05/2004 21:44:42John Schertzer
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:how to change negative anchors?27/05/2004 12:42:16stephen
                                                  Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:how to change negative anchors?27/05/2004 15:09:12John Schertzer
     Re:how to change negative anchors?03/06/2004 03:18:30InnerCalm
     Re:how to change negative anchors?31/07/2004 23:08:42Robert kamala

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