John, Quote "You have (in the other thread) requested historical information about meta programs - I am prepared to respond to but I need something concrete to respond to. If there are well-defined presentation of meta programs as you propose, then pick one and present it." End quote. Meta-program. Towards - away. I dont like soup. I like fast cars. I look awful today. I like those new jeans. Negation occours in confusing levels. Instead of stating what they want they state what they dosn`t want and then state what they want as a common pattern. Then the metaprogram they use are a more away than towards. They are however also moving towards something but that isnt explicit in what they say. (2 set of representations) The representation they have is what they dosnt want which then is replaced with what the do want. Using language then to suggest a thing to them you say something like, You don`t want (X) where X is the thing they dosnt want and then you say but you do want (Y) which is what they do want suiting the criteria they have for the matter involved. You can also say it like this if they are a more moving away and use counterexamples, "you problebly dosnt agree with me on this matter and then you present your matter (Z)." If the person is using the same pattern in many context then it is justified to say it governs a lot of the persons life. If it is context specific to a certain area then the principal only works in that area. If it is specific to a context then other metaprograms is overlapped like, focus on people, places, time, relationships and other suited criteria. 1. I dont like to go to that resturant beacuse the the personal is awful. (people) 2. I dont like to go to that resutrant since the time going there is so long winded. (Time) 3. I dont like to go to that resturant since there is no way to park my car there. (Place) All 3 exampels are using the same example to explicit state that some people focus on different representations regarding going to a resturant. (They are going to eat the question is where) If using a strategy to enhance and shift the way they do not want to go somewhere beacuse of (X) then, you would want to use different representations when installing the strategy used for them. (the motivations would be different for them to accept the new strategy of using a towards meta-program) They would all have a similar strategy of motivation to go to a resturant but they would have different set of representing the representations of not going to the resturant. The different ways they would represent in how to go to the resturant or not would alter the same strategy used (of each individual) since the individual place a different focus on how to represent the same steps to going or not going to a resturant. I think John that you dosnt nessercerly agree with me on this subject of meta-programs and the relevance to sensorygrounded langauge used describing the matter in writing. /Robert