| Topic: | Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Proposal for Refinement of distinction between modeling and applications |
| Posted by: | Zhi Zhi Chien |
| Date/Time: | 09/01/2003 03:54:13 |
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Lewis, Thanks for replying, Here is what I consider an historical antecedent to NLP and more so to New Code based on what I've read of Dr. Grinder and heard in a tape of Turtles all the Way Down and Tools for Mastery. Some time in 1916 Thomas Troward presented what has come to be know as the Edinbough lectures(Troward served as a Judge in the Punjab for some 30 years).It has come to be known as the Science of Mind by Earnest Holmes.By Troward the results of exploration of hypnosis was used to give weight to an aspect of mind which he choose to name "subjective mind" totally subject to suggestion from conscious mind,petty tyrant or not.In other words we can't not. We are in this set as members.His not successor but admirerer further defined and excluded "unconscious", and "subconcious" since A.it's not asleep B. it's not under any thing.As another point he excluded the phrasing "your subjective mind" ("your unconscious mind") to claim there is only one Subjective Mind that we with consciousness direct with or without wisdom, for our benifit or not. A further point is the different between hypnosis and his treatment method is it is for the conscious mind to choose direct and protect the idea or form but not the how to (leaving that to subjective mind to give substance to). As well as offering an element for the lexicon of the community of NLP(subjective mind) the other difference for my money and heat is the use by both Troward and Holmes of an inductive practical syllogism in which the major premise and the minor premise has as its conclusion convincing deductivity where with the exitence of the object of ones desire is declared now occurring in ones life (be it health, prosperity, specific knowledge, all the best, or whatever). ZZC |