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Topic: Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching
Posted by: Robin Manuell
Date/Time: 08/05/2003 17:59:07

John S, As you point out and as Thomas developes it is of course possible to use this commercial metaphor in this context. I prefer not to as it adds nothing that I value to my interaction with my chisel.  It is not pointing to useful distinctions that other metaphors make plain.  My chisel is my friend.  I use it with love and it responds gracefully.

Selling has become a  dirty word in my hallucination simply because I believe (and I suspect that you would agree) that much of the products of western civilisation are designed to appeal to desires which will never be satisfied by possession.  I do not believe this is an ethically neutral situation, indeed it is a symptom of a catastrophy whose scope is beyond the relevance frame for this site!!

As for my own work and services I am still uncomfortable with sales and marketing attempts that limit my interaction with people to that of offering "products" or "services".  My best work evolves out of a dialogue with my client in which neither of us has a clear idea of what is needed or how we will work together.  I'm not denying that I do not offer a service, just that I prefer not to objectify it.  My website is horribly compromised :-)

The extent to which this is successful for me is directly proportional to the happiness of my accountant!!!!

Robin Manuell

www.ideasinmotion.co.uk


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NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching16/04/2003 14:30:52John Schertzer
     Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching16/04/2003 17:01:13John Grinder
          Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching16/04/2003 17:44:07John Schertzer
               Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching16/04/2003 20:03:36Zhi Zhi Chien
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching16/04/2003 20:37:22John Schertzer
               Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching22/04/2003 14:23:27John Schertzer
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching22/04/2003 18:36:29Robert
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching23/04/2003 14:25:34John Schertzer
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching23/04/2003 15:07:13Robert
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching23/04/2003 18:12:16John Schertzer
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching23/04/2003 11:42:55Robin Manuell
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching23/04/2003 15:38:20John Schertzer
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching23/04/2003 16:58:05Robin Manuell
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching23/04/2003 17:30:32John Schertzer
                                        Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching24/04/2003 06:34:32John Grinder
                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching25/04/2003 01:02:49nj
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                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching25/04/2003 02:36:33Stephen
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                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching25/04/2003 14:40:43John Schertzer
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                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching25/04/2003 20:18:33John Schertzer
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                                                                                Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching28/04/2003 14:24:47John Schertzer
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                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching29/04/2003 14:35:42John Schertzer
                                                                                          Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching29/04/2003 15:55:10John Schertzer
                                                                                               Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching30/04/2003 01:45:06nj
                                                                                                    Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching30/04/2003 14:14:43John Schertzer
                                                                                                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching30/04/2003 19:13:43John Grinder
                                                                                                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching30/04/2003 20:37:53John Schertzer
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                                                                                                                                       Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching06/05/2003 16:59:36John Schertzer
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                                                                                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching08/05/2003 17:07:59John Schertzer
                                                                                                                                                 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching08/05/2003 17:35:28John Schertzer
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                                                                                                                                                           Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching08/05/2003 18:36:47John Schertzer
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                                                            Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching26/04/2003 03:22:28Stephen
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                                                                      Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching28/04/2003 13:42:02John Schertzer
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                                             Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching25/04/2003 16:20:42John Schertzer
     Re:NLP Changework vs. Therapy and Coaching17/04/2003 08:15:15Robert

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