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Topic: Re:Re:A question concerning choices
Posted by: Jeisyn Credeur
Date/Time: 20/07/2002 00:28:06

John, Carmen, Sarah, et. al,

I've enjoyed this thread!

Taking John and Carmen's advice in both in "Whispering" and this thread regarding the inappropriateness of Cause-Effect descriptions of human action, should we not have The Chain of Excellence sequenced to significant choice points ("significant" can be defined by our individual criteria) so that the unconscious is fully participating in allowing us to elegantly make an assessment of the array from which behavior(s) X in C will be chosen?

In other words, if through Performance, State, Physiology and Respiriation we access an array of X, Y and Z in context C would we not be responding closer to FA 1 (neurological transforms) rather than  FA2- our own limited linguistic maps that may contain representations of  "no choice" and "limitation". Another way of saying this is would we not be responding to life unfolding rather than some story of what is occuring?

Additionally, if indeed this is an appropriate way of choosing, (if I'm misguided here please teach me!) should we not consider The Chain of Excellence at the level of  NLP Community? Specifically, training institutes dedicated to quality training and modeilng and practioners committed to truly doing NLP rather than contented oriented quagmire?

Finally, I was moved by the statement, "the choices we experience are quite satisfactory but we recognize a meta-principle; namely that if we persist in exercising a small set of successful choices, we are exposing ourselves to the significant risk of repetition with its devastating consequence of falling completely asleep with respect to new experiences - the source of new patterning."
I am witnessing some of the NLP community  falling asleep for sure. I believe "Whispering" is a deserved and pungent alarm clock. Watching my students here in Austin and reading some of the posts on this list I think a few have roused themselves from a slumber and others have hit the snooze button--repeatedly. And others still are lost in some dream of a dream of an gentle alarm going off somewhere in the distance.

More later,

Jeisyn Credeur
Austin, TX


Entire Thread

TopicDate PostedPosted By
A question concerning choices17/07/2002 20:48:06Sarah G
     Re:A question concerning choices18/07/2002 10:00:48Carmen Bostic and John Grinder
          Re:Re:A question concerning choices20/07/2002 00:28:06Jeisyn Credeur
          to: Dr. Grinder & Ms. Bostic St Clair, Re: 'program','behavior description', behavior instruction'20/07/2002 02:48:46nj
          ReReRe:Re:A question concerning more choices20/07/2002 16:18:04sammy
          Re:Re:A question concerning choices20/07/2002 22:15:49Sarah
          Re:Re:A question concerning choices23/07/2002 15:19:35Sarah
               Re:Re:Re:A question concerning choices24/07/2002 17:59:27Matt Ross
               Re:Re:Re:A question concerning choices12/10/2003 01:40:47nj
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:A question concerning choices12/10/2003 12:06:16Sam Castwell
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A question concerning choices17/10/2003 01:29:59nj
               Re:Re:Re:A question concerning choices16/10/2003 04:08:20Todd Sloane
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:A question concerning choices16/10/2003 20:47:36nj
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A question concerning choices17/10/2003 05:17:29Todd
                              Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A question concerning choices17/10/2003 06:00:03nj
                                   Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A question concerning choices28/05/2004 07:34:31nj
               cause-effect thinking03/05/2004 18:16:33Amilcar
          Re:Re:A question concerning choices30/04/2004 23:44:23nj
     Re:A question concerning choices20/07/2002 01:07:23nj
          Re:Re:A question concerning choices12/10/2003 22:35:02Sarah
               Re:Re:Re:A question concerning choices14/10/2003 01:07:52nj
                    Re:Re:Re:Re:A question concerning choices14/10/2003 02:04:37Sarah
                         Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:A question concerning choices14/10/2003 21:00:31nj

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